Hawk DLX EFI speed

[Pharaoh]

Hey guys I would like to know any and every way to make my bike faster or if I could put a bigger engine on the body frame to make it faster

[Do©Hawk]

Change your sprockets.

Your signature says top speed; 70. Did you confirm that with GPS? If that's MPH, I can't help you. With a sprocket change, I can barely get 65MPH.

[Do©Hawk]

Originally Posted by Do©Hawk

I can barely get 65MPH.

Made a liar out of myself....I reached a speed of 68 yesterday.

take a look at the new CFMoto 450MT

Is the 450 MT also called the Ibex? I've seen some media about the Ibex 450 from CFMoto.

[J4Fun]

[QUOTE=Do©Hawk;407391]Made a liar out of myself....I reached a speed of 68 yesterday.

I see from your sig that your using 17t front and 47 rear, so sounds to me that is a good combo for a stock bike! I might try doing the same thing on my ‘21 250 DLX. I also have an Expro Storm 150 DLX and after riding that for a short time getting on the Hawk feels like sitting on a soft couch…just thought I would add that thought…

[Do©Hawk]

Originally Posted by J4Fun

I see from your sig that your using 17t front and 47 rear, so sounds to me that is a good combo for a stock bike! .........after riding that for a short time getting on the Hawk feels like sitting on a soft couch

My friend has the CSC TT250 and has had it for several years. He guided me toward the 47/17 sprocket combo. Funny, he said the seat on my Hawk was much softer and more comfortable than his TT250.

[Megadan]

Quick note on those CF Moto bikes. I was seriously looking at them myself before I got my Royal Enfield. I decided against it for one reason, which was several more recent stories of owners having issues getting warranty issues resolved, such as engine leaks and other small part failures. Just a point to consider if you are going to drop thousands on one, they aren't much better than the cheap China bikes we all have.

Originally Posted by Do©Hawk

My friend has the CSC TT250 and has had it for several years. He guided me toward the 47/17 sprocket combo. Funny, he said the seat on my Hawk was much softer and more comfortable than his TT250.

Irony. I put a TT250 seat on my Hawk because the Hawk seat sucks. lol

[Pharaoh]

Every since it's been back running I'm only getting 55mph and yeah I was on my GPS on the highway when I touched 70 I think it has something to do with valve space and also and what do you think about a bigger boar

[Megadan]

You have to keep things a little realistic. You have a 229cc overhead valve 2 valve single cylinder engine, that at best on the DLX is making 17hp. With the right sprocket setup, 70mph is probably the best you will ever get. These are not high output engines with a big high RPM power peak.

If absolute power is your goal, then this is the path for you. https://motocultparts.com/products/s...43139496870087

Seems expensive, but as somebody who basically has that setup on my carb Hawk, I can tell you it is worth it. He has tunes or his kits for the EFI bikes too, so yes it will work.

Just be aware that, even with that kit and the big boost in power, the absolute fastest I have heard a dual sport like the Hawk do with that setup is 82mph. 75 is more realistic for the average person with reasonable gearing (17/45 or 43 sprockets). 4 to 5 more hp doesn't really buy you a whole lot of extra speed, but on the plus side, 60mph is a total breeze, where a stock carb hawk struggles to do more than about 62 even with better sprockets.

If you want any more than that, just save your money and get a different bike with more power.

[Pharaoh]

Originally Posted by Megadan

You have to keep things a little realistic. You have a 229cc overhead valve 2 valve single cylinder engine, that at best on the DLX is making 17hp. With the right sprocket setup, 70mph is probably the best you will ever get. These are not high output engines with a big high RPM power peak.

If absolute power is your goal, then this is the path for you. https://motocultparts.com/products/s...43139496870087

Seems expensive, but as somebody who basically has that setup on my carb Hawk, I can tell you it is worth it. He has tunes or his kits for the EFI bikes too, so yes it will work.

Just be aware that, even with that kit and the big boost in power, the absolute fastest I have heard a dual sport like the Hawk do with that setup is 82mph. 75 is more realistic for the average person with reasonable gearing (17/45 or 43 sprockets). 4 to 5 more hp doesn't really buy you a whole lot of extra speed, but on the plus side, 60mph is a total breeze, where a stock carb hawk struggles to do more than about 62 even with better sprockets.

If you want any more than that, just save your money and get a different bike with more power.

Think that was usually information

[Thumper]

I posted a new thread on the KTM adventure 390 in the Adventure section to continue thius discussion. Ibex is coming next year, but the KTM 390 is already here.

https://www.chinariders.net/forumdisplay.php?f=135

[bigdano711]

I'm looking hard at this one:

[Thumper]

That would be a major step up, Dan. As long as you are considering this kind of change, take a look at the new CFMoto 450MT. Not that much more money, but much more performance. Yes, it's another China bike. Could be made of unobtainium for a while though.

https://www.cfmotousa.com/motorcycles

[bigdano711]

Originally Posted by Thumper

That would be a major step up, Dan. As long as you are considering this kind of change, take a look at the new CFMoto 450MT. Not that much more money, but much more performance. Yes, it's another China bike. Could be made of unobtainium for a while though.

https://www.cfmotousa.com/motorcycles

I looked for the 450MT and could not find it. Any other suggestions in that size? 450cc seems to be the sweet spot.


Edit: Found this article: https://adventure-motorcycling.com/2...-cfmoto-450mt/


Edit 2: Spec sheet. Me likey!

[ProDigit]

Originally Posted by bigdano711

I looked for the 450MT and could not find it. Any other suggestions in that size? 450cc seems to be the sweet spot.

You got that right!
I had a CBR300R, and while it could do 107MPH, I never felt like it had much to give past 80MPH. And didn't like riding it on the highway.
Had an FZ07, and it was a hoot, but at highway speeds it reacted just like a car.
80MPH+ it pulled all the way to 100 without any issue (I stopped at around 120, where FOML started taking over (=Fear Of My Life)).
It was too fast.

In the past I also had a Suzuki GS500F, and that thing topped out at 110MPH.
It basically did whatever I wanted it to do, was fuel efficient, but wasn't fun to ride. Too heavy for me.

A fuel injected 450 should have about the same power as that old carbureted 500cc Suzuki, meanwhile the 385LBS is lighter in weight than the GS at 450LBS.
Still, I prefer bikes to be no heavier than 375LBS. That CBR was too heavy for me moving it, but riding it around town was perfect.
The Grom clone I own now is 250LBS wet, and even that one I find kind of heavy on the front.
I wished Honda would make a 225cc Grom-style of bike, with slightly larger wheels, naked, better suspension, and stick below 225LBS if they can.

Roketa had a bike like that, their MC-05-127. Too bad it had a step-through gearbox, and a petty 1 gallon fuel tank. Give it a decent 6 speed gearbox, a 3 gal tank, and a 250cc engine, and it'd be my ideal.
I don't care about going on the highway on a bike anymore.

[Aussie_in_MO]

CF Moto does have a new 450 Ibex model coming out. Currently the only Ibex they list on their website is a couple of 800 variants


https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34082