Opinions Apollo Enduro

[MtnManPoe85]

I was just looking for any opionions on the Apollo, I saw it for just over $1100, where the hawk is $1349, I'm not a cheapskate, just poor(that grand I have is burning a hole in my pocket) They look almost identical but a search said Apollo is liquid cooled? I wonder if any of that makes a difference, I'm in north central Florida. Just south of Ocala, elevation a whopping 345 feet.. I appreciate your time -Poe

[Megadan]

Depends on which Apollo you are talking about, but if you mean the DB-36, then once upon a time they were offered with a liquid cooled engine in other parts of the world, but they are all air cooled in the U.S.

[MtnManPoe85]

Yeah i had a brain fart, took my night meds, i think it's identical, just a different name.

[Its_not_a_honda]

https://gokartsusa.com/250-Motorcycl...rt-Enduro.aspx
Those apollo bikes are just relabeled BSR, Bashan, or RPS bikes.

https://www.motobuys.com/apollo-arg36-250-db.html
The real Apollo 250 is "dirt" only here in the USA.

[512customs]

Just buy a hawk from txpowersports and use the MotoCheeze discount for $25 off

[ChipToothy]

There are close to a dozen options for the China bikes around your price that will need less stuff done than the Apollo. Options to consider is USD forks, wheel size, street legal, chain, wheel set and bearings quality and so forth. Lots of examples from various dealers out there. Shop around


http://shopapmc.com/One-Week-SALE-Ne...2018_p_53.html

https://peacesports.com/Motorcycles-...c-a9a60101f893

https://q9powersportsusa.com/product...uro-motorcycle

https://peacesports.com/Motorcycles-...d-a8b2013eda10


http://www.fentonpowersports.com/Rok...250Enduro.html

https://www.superiorpowersports.com/...xoCPxQQAvD_BwE

http://www.saferwholesale.com/250cc-...xoC2FkQAvD_BwE

[ChipToothy]

This one is very interesting if it had better tires, I especially like the black and red one. I noticed this same seller has a Hawk that comes with a skid plate. Neat.

http://www.saferwholesale.com/Produc...=RTA-DB-47-250

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by ChipToothy

This one is very interesting if it had better tires, I especially like the black and red one. I noticed this same seller has a Hawk that comes with a skid plate. Neat.

http://www.saferwholesale.com/Produc...=RTA-DB-47-250

That's basically a Hawk turned ADV bike. I have been eyeballing that one to act as a commuter bike for a little while now.

The BMS 250 CRP seems to be a great alternative to the Hawk, although I do believe it has 19" Front, 17" rear wheels, so if a 21"/18" setup is what you are after then it isn't a good option.

The Apollo DB-36 is actually a better off road chassis out of the box than most of the Hawk style bikes. The catch is that they don't come with any lighting, and only very forgiving/lax states would register one for road use. You can buy a wiring and switch kit like this one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPLETE-EL...5.c10#viTabs_0

Then simply add whatever lights you like (DOT Legal). Add a cheap horn into the mix, and if your state allows it do the inspection and registration.

It's a lot of effort and extra cost though, so there is that downside, and it REALLY depends on what state you live in.

[Chineeske]

I love my Apollo, it's a streetlegal dirtbike.

It has USD forks, the rearshock is ok and for a Chinese bike, well build.
However, I ditched the watercooled engine and installed an aircooled one. The reason of this is my serious offroad riding and I don't want to strand in the middle of nowhere with a pinched radiator due a crash which happens now and then when riding...

I also ditched the chain, and replaced it with a decent 520 chain and some Honda CRF sprockets.

What I really dislike is it's engine, both aircooled and watercooled as it's too underpowered IMO.

My Apollo, how the Apollo is now with the aircooled engine

My Apollo just right out of the box, with watercooled engine and sh^tty chain

[MtnManPoe85]

Well I guess that settles that :-) This universe is just dead set on teaching me patience.

[NorthRider]

Originally Posted by Megadan

That's basically a Hawk turned ADV bike. I have been eyeballing that one to act as a commuter bike for a little while now.

The BMS 250 CRP seems to be a great alternative to the Hawk, although I do believe it has 19" Front, 17" rear wheels, so if a 21"/18" setup is what you are after then it isn't a good option.

The Apollo DB-36 is actually a better off road chassis out of the box than most of the Hawk style bikes. The catch is that they don't come with any lighting, and only very forgiving/lax states would register one for road use. You can buy a wiring and switch kit like this one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPLETE-EL...5.c10#viTabs_0

Then simply add whatever lights you like (DOT Legal). Add a cheap horn into the mix, and if your state allows it do the inspection and registration.

It's a lot of effort and extra cost though, so there is that downside, and it REALLY depends on what state you live in.

You mention the BMS CRP250. We bought two of those, and that bike definitely has 21" front, 18" rear wheels.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Megadan

That's basically a Hawk turned ADV bike. I have been eyeballing that one to act as a commuter bike for a little while now.

Close...it is the Bashan CR 250, so more Enforcer turned ADV bike. I am glad to see it listed under a retailer, but sad to see the retailer is Saferwholesale

http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=22528

I had found this bike the same way I discovered the BMS CRP 250 enduro--the EPA certification listed several models that are certified DOT/EPA using the same engine.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by culcune

Close...it is the Bashan CR 250, so more Enforcer turned ADV bike. I am glad to see it listed under a retailer, but sad to see the retailer is Saferwholesale

http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=22528

I had found this bike the same way I discovered the BMS CRP 250 enduro--the EPA certification listed several models that are certified DOT/EPA using the same engine.

And the Enforcer is a Hawk with a PAIR system.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Its_not_a_honda

https://gokartsusa.com/250-Motorcycl...rt-Enduro.aspx
Those apollo bikes are just relabeled BSR, Bashan, or RPS bikes.

https://www.motobuys.com/apollo-arg36-250-db.html
The real Apollo 250 is "dirt" only here in the USA.

The one from gokartusa is actually a Bashan DB41, aka Enforcer; it is made near identical to the Hawk, but the advantage it has over the Hawk is it is (technically) 49 state street legal according to DOT/EPA; it is a quality unit, arguably higher quality than the Hawk based on how decent the 'higher feature' Bashan enduro stablemates, such as the Brozz 250, the Storm 250, and BMS's enduro which is actually OEM'd by Bashan, the CRP 250, seem to be.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by NorthRider

You mention the BMS CRP250. We bought two of those, and that bike definitely has 21" front, 18" rear wheels.

Out of the box, your guys' bikes are probably one of the best bikes for the money taking quality, EPA/DOT certification, and the fact that BMS has 21/18 wheels (as compared to the Bashan Brozz or Bashan Storm).