Hi + questions

Greggl4321 · 10-17-2019, 12:14 PM

Hi there, my names Gregg I've got a few questions

So I was looking into the Grom and its clones, I was wondering which is the best? -- Best 125cc one, - one that goes up to 60 mph is my criteria

Also, what about the dual sports, anything in the 125cc range that is street legal and goes up to 60mph? - Which is best?

imapdog · 10-17-2019, 12:56 PM

i dont know of a stock issued 125cc reaching 60mph. changing the stock sprockets and carb is a necessity to reach 60mph.

i just ordered the newly released street legal pitbike(some could consider it dual sport).
https://www.orionpowersports.com/ori...embled-tested/
but registering it for tags hasn't been proven yet, some fb user said it passed inspection at his unknown state and he is waiting on mco motorcycle title to arrive for the actual registration for tags....mine arrives monday and prolly have to wait another couple weeks to get the title

**JerryHawk250** · 10-17-2019, 01:03 PM

Welcome aboard!

IMO the Lifan KP150 Mini would be the best option for the Grom Clone. http://shopapmc.com/New-American-Lif...very_p_57.html

Greggl4321 · 10-17-2019, 01:18 PM

What is the top speed of that pit bike?

I'm not so sure about the liflan- I was thinking either the Tao or the Vader 2 in white, I like the way they look... How come they can't go above 50mph? Its got the same engine as the grom, I'd think they would be able to go the same speed.

**JerryHawk250** · 10-17-2019, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Greggl4321

What is the top speed of that pit bike?

I'm not so sure about the liflan- I was thinking either the Tao or the Vader 2 in white, I like the way they look... How come they can't go above 50mph? Its got the same engine as the grom, I'd think they would be able to go the same speed.

They claim 70mph. We have a member on here that has a video hitting 70mph .

**JerryHawk250** · 10-17-2019, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Greggl4321

I'm not so sure about the liflan- I was thinking either the Tao or the Vader 2 in white, I like the way they look... How come they can't go above 50mph? Its got the same engine as the grom, I'd think they would be able to go the same speed.

Lifan will be your better bike. Much higher Quality. Backed up by a 2 year warranty and have great support and parts right here in the US with American Lifan. The KP150 also has 30% more horsepower, 17% more torque is 5 speed VS 4 speed.
The Tao and Vader can do over 60mph but require some mods.

Greggl4321 · 10-17-2019, 01:44 PM

I meant how come the other 125ccs go the same speed as the Grom?

I'm guessing it's cause of the carb???

Is there anything else like that Orion RXB mentioned above?

What is its top speed?

Is there a recommendation for a new rider 6ft 280lbs?

**JerryHawk250** · 10-17-2019, 01:54 PM

Before we get to deep into suggestion of bikes, What state do you live? If California that will really narrow down what you can register as street legal.

Greggl4321 · 10-17-2019, 01:59 PM

California

**JerryHawk250** · 10-17-2019, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Greggl4321

California

That's going to really narrow it down. The Grom and a few Clones are street legal. 2018 KP150 was street legal in Cali but 2019's are not. https://www.kronikracing.com/Scooters.html

Dual Sport you have one choice that I know of and that would be the CSC TT250. https://store.cscmotorcycles.com/CSC...tt250-2019.htm

Greggl4321 · 10-17-2019, 02:12 PM

Darn,

so I guess it is back to the grom clones

which of them are Califonia Street legal?

Is the Tao Tao hellcate or the ice bear vader 2 california street legal?

I'm wanting it to go 60

so I'm guessing that there are no street legal 125cc dual sport / pit bikes?

10-17-2019, 12:14 PM	#1
Greggl4321 Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 50	Hi + questions Hi there, my names Gregg I've got a few questions So I was looking into the Grom and its clones, I was wondering which is the best? -- Best 125cc one, - one that goes up to 60 mph is my criteria Also, what about the dual sports, anything in the 125cc range that is street legal and goes up to 60mph? - Which is best?
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10-17-2019, 01:03 PM	#3
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,574	Welcome aboard! IMO the Lifan KP150 Mini would be the best option for the Grom Clone. http://shopapmc.com/New-American-Lif...very_p_57.html __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-17-2019, 01:54 PM	#8
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,574	Before we get to deep into suggestion of bikes, What state do you live? If California that will really narrow down what you can register as street legal. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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10-17-2019, 12:56 PM	#2
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	i dont know of a stock issued 125cc reaching 60mph. changing the stock sprockets and carb is a necessity to reach 60mph. i just ordered the newly released street legal pitbike(some could consider it dual sport). https://www.orionpowersports.com/ori...embled-tested/ but registering it for tags hasn't been proven yet, some fb user said it passed inspection at his unknown state and he is waiting on mco motorcycle title to arrive for the actual registration for tags....mine arrives monday and prolly have to wait another couple weeks to get the title
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10-17-2019, 01:18 PM	#4
Greggl4321 Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 50	What is the top speed of that pit bike? I'm not so sure about the liflan- I was thinking either the Tao or the Vader 2 in white, I like the way they look... How come they can't go above 50mph? Its got the same engine as the grom, I'd think they would be able to go the same speed.
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10-17-2019, 01:44 PM	#7
Greggl4321 Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 50	I meant how come the other 125ccs go the same speed as the Grom? I'm guessing it's cause of the carb??? Is there anything else like that Orion RXB mentioned above? What is its top speed? Is there a recommendation for a new rider 6ft 280lbs?
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10-17-2019, 01:59 PM	#9
Greggl4321 Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 50	California
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10-17-2019, 02:12 PM	#11
Greggl4321 Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 50	Darn, so I guess it is back to the grom clones which of them are Califonia Street legal? Is the Tao Tao hellcate or the ice bear vader 2 california street legal? I'm wanting it to go 60 so I'm guessing that there are no street legal 125cc dual sport / pit bikes?
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