Enforcer vs BMS

Cpl Noop · 03-28-2019, 03:22 PM

Is it BMS better? Thoughts? I know the Enforcer is good but for a couple hundred more is the BMS worth it or does it even matter it has some Zongshen engine?

**JerryHawk250** · 03-28-2019, 03:29 PM

No one has compared them side by side. I would say pretty much equal. The BMS will not have a fuel gauge but does have UDS forks and rear rack. The BMS claims to have about 1 hp more but who really knows for sure.

Cpl Noop · 03-28-2019, 03:37 PM

Hm. I was just thinking about that I'm guessing I can put another a newer or well better set of Forks and shocks do you think for the enforcer?

I just like thought of a fixerupper haha

**JerryHawk250** · 03-28-2019, 03:54 PM

If you can live without a fuel gauge I would go with the BMS. Personally I go by the mileage to know when I need fuel. The Hawk is the first bike I ever owned with a fuel gauge.

Cpl Noop · 03-28-2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

If you can live without a fuel gauge I would go with the BMS. Personally I go by the mileage to know when I need fuel. The Hawk is the first bike I ever owned with a fuel gauge.

Is it really worth the extra for the rack and forks or is it the engine you think could be better but to me with that idk if anyone had nodded these really so Idk what fits and if I dont have a step by step I'm not mechanically inclined enough yet to just come up with a random part to use for upgrading stuff on it.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-28-2019, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpl Noop

Is it really worth the extra for the rack and forks or is it the engine you think could be better but to me with that idk if anyone had nodded these really so Idk what fits and if I dont have a step by step I'm not mechanically inclined enough yet to just come up with a random part to use for upgrading stuff on it.

It's a matter of preference. Myself I find nothing wrong with the standard forks. I installed a trunk on my hawk which when the trunk is removed it doubles as a rack. Link to trunk install. http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=22247
Engine wise I never owned a Zongshen engine so I couldn't tell if one is better than the other. Most of the internal engine parts are interchangeable between this china engines and can be found on places ebay, aliexpress, Taobao.com and the many online china bike parts stores.

SalidaCO · 03-28-2019, 05:49 PM

http://shopapmc.com/SPECIAL-SALE-New...uded_p_29.html

If your looking at the Enforcer, I just received mine from here and the transaction went well working with Don. It might be the same company as APSC just a different website.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-28-2019, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SalidaCO

http://shopapmc.com/SPECIAL-SALE-New...uded_p_29.html

If your looking at the Enforcer, I just received mine from here and the transaction went well working with Don. It might be the same company as APSC just a different website.

Yes he is the same owner of both web sites. Good guy to deal with.

Cpl Noop · 03-28-2019, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SalidaCO

http://shopapmc.com/SPECIAL-SALE-New...uded_p_29.html

If your looking at the Enforcer, I just received mine from here and the transaction went well working with Don. It might be the same company as APSC just a different website.

He is currently changing websites. I spoke to him on the phone for a couple hours lol hes full of knowledge and very nice. Not sure how knowledgeable he is of modding
But the regular bikes stock he seemed solid. I'll be probably ordering mine on monday but I'm always indecisive because I dont have a lot of money and hate to see something i could have gotten that's better for roughly the same.

Can you take pictures of yours like the gauges, fuel tank, tire and stuff if you wouldn't mind?

Cpl Noop · 03-28-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

It's a matter of preference. Myself I find nothing wrong with the standard forks. I installed a trunk on my hawk which when the trunk is removed it doubles as a rack. Link to trunk install. http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=22247
Engine wise I never owned a Zongshen engine so I couldn't tell if one is better than the other. Most of the internal engine parts are interchangeable between this china engines and can be found on places ebay,
aliexpress, Taobao.com and the many online china bike parts stores.

I was going to ask how to get that rack with the storage lol

SalidaCO · 03-28-2019, 08:35 PM

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Let me know if that works, I always have issues with forums

culcune · 03-28-2019, 09:44 PM

I believe the engine is one and the same across the Bashan lineup, meaning the engine OEM for Bashan's bikes is Zongshen. I highlighted and copied these model names directly from Bashan's EPA/DOT certificate; most are actually here in the US (oftentimes manufacturers will certify several models on a certificate, but only bring one model here). BMS 250 CRP, BROZZ 250, BSR 250, CR250, MOTOMAX 250, Razer 250, SHARK 250, STORM 250. This would insinuate that all use the same engine; a 229cc model name 167 FMM according to the certificate. The Motomax 250 is the Will discussed the other day--I emailed the N. American rep for Bashan, and as exciting as it looks, he said it was only exported to Puerto Rico. The Razer 250 is a bike I posted the other day. If not, I will post a photo of it--it looks nice. The Shark is not currently imported by anyone, unfortunately, right now, but we did have them here. The ones we know are the Brozz, the BSR (Enforcer), the CR 250 (a cool adventure-like bike), and the Storm. The CRP 250 is sold under the BMS name, but is OEM'd by Bashan, and your paperwork you get with the bike and manufacturer plates riveted to the bike clearly state it is a Bashan product. It is interesting that one Chinese manufacturer has 5 different dual-sports offered here, but confusing in that they have like 4 different distributors for them (one distributor sells both the Storm 250 and Enforcer). BMS sells the CRP 250. Roketa the CR250. And Peace, the Brozz 250. The rep told me they are looking for someone to pick up the Razer 250, and I do hope it will be one of the existing ones!

Cpl Noop · 03-28-2019, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SalidaCO

https://ibb.co/crMZ3PJ
https://ibb.co/HtnXtVX
https://ibb.co/BnQ34wB
https://ibb.co/XS0DCSc
https://ibb.co/sg8DnGp
https://ibb.co/MMGzqDz
https://ibb.co/hZG9smR
https://ibb.co/pLyGY6r

Let me know if that works, I always have issues with forums

Thank you! It does look really nice!

Whats that lock box thing above the rear tire? Im guessing for vehicle reg and insurance?

SalidaCO · 03-28-2019, 10:26 PM

Yeah it’s just a box for paperwork and the little tool kit fits in it. Just in front of that is a helmet lock keyed to the ignition keys.

Cpl Noop · 03-28-2019, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SalidaCO

Yeah it’s just a box for paperwork and the little tool kit fits in it. Just in front of that is a helmet lock keyed to the ignition keys.

This might sound dumb but I have to ask, when you get it does ti have tools or do I need to buy them? Lol

03-28-2019, 03:22 PM	#1
Cpl Noop Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26	Enforcer vs BMS Is it BMS better? Thoughts? I know the Enforcer is good but for a couple hundred more is the BMS worth it or does it even matter it has some Zongshen engine?
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03-28-2019, 03:29 PM	#2
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,569	No one has compared them side by side. I would say pretty much equal. The BMS will not have a fuel gauge but does have UDS forks and rear rack. The BMS claims to have about 1 hp more but who really knows for sure. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-28-2019, 03:54 PM	#4
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,569	If you can live without a fuel gauge I would go with the BMS. Personally I go by the mileage to know when I need fuel. The Hawk is the first bike I ever owned with a fuel gauge. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-28-2019, 05:49 PM	#7
SalidaCO Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Colorado Posts: 8	http://shopapmc.com/SPECIAL-SALE-New...uded_p_29.html If your looking at the Enforcer, I just received mine from here and the transaction went well working with Don. It might be the same company as APSC just a different website. __________________ 2018 Bashan Enforcer 250 1969 Harley XLH 900
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03-28-2019, 08:35 PM	#11
SalidaCO Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Colorado Posts: 8	https://ibb.co/crMZ3PJ https://ibb.co/HtnXtVX https://ibb.co/BnQ34wB https://ibb.co/XS0DCSc https://ibb.co/sg8DnGp https://ibb.co/MMGzqDz https://ibb.co/hZG9smR https://ibb.co/pLyGY6r Let me know if that works, I always have issues with forums __________________ 2018 Bashan Enforcer 250 1969 Harley XLH 900
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03-28-2019, 03:37 PM	#3
Cpl Noop Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26	Hm. I was just thinking about that I'm guessing I can put another a newer or well better set of Forks and shocks do you think for the enforcer? I just like thought of a fixerupper haha
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03-28-2019, 09:44 PM	#12
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	I believe the engine is one and the same across the Bashan lineup, meaning the engine OEM for Bashan's bikes is Zongshen. I highlighted and copied these model names directly from Bashan's EPA/DOT certificate; most are actually here in the US (oftentimes manufacturers will certify several models on a certificate, but only bring one model here). BMS 250 CRP, BROZZ 250, BSR 250, CR250, MOTOMAX 250, Razer 250, SHARK 250, STORM 250. This would insinuate that all use the same engine; a 229cc model name 167 FMM according to the certificate. The Motomax 250 is the Will discussed the other day--I emailed the N. American rep for Bashan, and as exciting as it looks, he said it was only exported to Puerto Rico. The Razer 250 is a bike I posted the other day. If not, I will post a photo of it--it looks nice. The Shark is not currently imported by anyone, unfortunately, right now, but we did have them here. The ones we know are the Brozz, the BSR (Enforcer), the CR 250 (a cool adventure-like bike), and the Storm. The CRP 250 is sold under the BMS name, but is OEM'd by Bashan, and your paperwork you get with the bike and manufacturer plates riveted to the bike clearly state it is a Bashan product. It is interesting that one Chinese manufacturer has 5 different dual-sports offered here, but confusing in that they have like 4 different distributors for them (one distributor sells both the Storm 250 and Enforcer). BMS sells the CRP 250. Roketa the CR250. And Peace, the Brozz 250. The rep told me they are looking for someone to pick up the Razer 250, and I do hope it will be one of the existing ones! __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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03-28-2019, 10:26 PM	#14
SalidaCO Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Colorado Posts: 8	Yeah it’s just a box for paperwork and the little tool kit fits in it. Just in front of that is a helmet lock keyed to the ignition keys. __________________ 2018 Bashan Enforcer 250 1969 Harley XLH 900
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