One of the places i deliver to frequently doing pizza delivery is the local Honda dealership. As a result of that i have had a chance to look the bikes over pretty good during deliveries. Was debating the idea of getting another bike to be able to keep riding however.... I have lost a lot of range of motion in my legs making it difficult to throw my leg over the seat of a lot of bikes. Which is a pity as there is an older Buell Ulysses dual sport in there. Unfortunately both it and the Kawasaki KLX right next to it are too tall now. Hell as it was i was barely able to get my leg over the seat of a new Rebel and CBR500F. Which leads me to look towards the mini moto line for now to be able to keep riding. Thus it brings me to the Navi, Grom and Monkey. The sales people recommended against the Navi because it was a less then enjoyable experience even for riders lighter then me. The Monkey and Grom can handle a bit heavier riders. Here are the main specs. All the Monkey essentially is is a Grom redone to look like an older Honda trail but there are some key spec differences.
Honda Grom:
Specs:
Engine & Drivetrain
Engine Type: Air-cooled, single-cylinder
Displacement: 125 cc
Bore & Stroke: 50.0 mm x 63.1 mm
Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
Valve Train: Chain-driven SOHC, two valves per cylinder
Fuel Delivery: PGM-FI electronic fuel injection
Transmission: Five-speed
Final Drive: #420 O-ring-sealed chain
Chassis & Suspension
Front Suspension
31 mm inverted fork; 100 mm (3.9 in.) travel
Rear Suspension
Single shock w/ steel box-section swingarm; 104 mm (4.1 in.) travel
Additional Information
Tires
Front: 120/70-12
Rear: 130/70-12
Brakes
Front: Single 220 mm disc with two-piston caliper
Rear: Single 190 mm disc with single-piston caliper
Seat Height
761 mm (30 in.)
Wheelbase
1,200 mm (47.2 in.)
Curb Weight
Standard: 101 kg (223 lb.) including required fluids and full tank of gas—ready to ride
ABS: 102 kg (225 lb.) including required fluids and full tank of gas—ready to ride
Fuel Capacity
6.0 litres
Colour
Standard: Red
ABS: Pearl White (Tri-colour)
Warranty
12 months, unlimited mileage, freely transferable warranty; extended coverage available with Honda Plus
Honda Monkey:
Engine & Drivetrain
Engine type
Air-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke
Displacement
124 cc
Bore & stroke
50 mm x 63.1 mm
Compression ratio
10.0:1
Valve train
SOHC; two valves per cylinder
Fuel delivery
PGM-FI with automatic enrichment
Transmission
Five-speed
Final drive
#420 O-ring-sealed chain (37T /14T)
Chassis & Suspension
Front suspension
31mm inverted fork; 100 mm (3.9 in) travel
Rear suspension
Twin shock; 102 mm (4.0 in.) travel
Dimensions & Additional Information
Tires
Front: 120/80-12 Rear: 130/80-12
Brakes
Front: Single 220mm hydraulic disc Rear: Single 190mm hydraulic disc
Ground clearance
175 mm (6.9 in.)
Seat height
775 mm (30.5 in)
Wheelbase
1143 mm (45.0 in)
Curb weight
105 kg (231 lb) including required fluids and full tank of gas - ready to ride
Fuel capacity
5.6 litres
Colour
Pearl Nebula Red / Knight Silver Metallic
Warranty
12 months, unlimited mileage
As you guys can see near identical specs for the most part other then the Grom having a slightly lower seat height and a larger fuel tank. The Monkey also has a slightly lower weight capacity. The odd thing is the Monkey is $1300 more on the Honda website then the Grom. While i like the retro styling of the Monkey i am not sure if i like it enough to justify the increased cost. I could easily use that $1300 to do some nice mods to the Grom like a power commander or regearing. Actually i could do a bit more then that. More likely PC, Regear, Exhaust and intake as all these are plenty affordable on Amazon.
Mostly going to be spending a good chunk of this week researching both then deciding on pre ordering a 2023 next sat. Question is though...Grom or Monkey lol