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Originally Posted by jimwildman
engines and some parts are the same but the Magician was based on the Yamaha tricker, its sort of a trials bike, it is weighted so and has the footpegs mounted further back, shifting the riders weight back, low seat height, etc.
Was the tricker much of a trials bike?
has anyone owned one? id love to hear/read a comparison.
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I think we should clear something important up here.
The only thing based on the Tricker would be the look of the bike. One thing I have learned is that, aside from the basic frame (including suspension parts) and body panel differences, most of the rest of the bike will use pretty much the same parts as many other China bikes. Heck, it has a Honda clone engine. I almost confident that the speedo drive on the Magician and the Hawk are the same unit. Without having one on hand to compare that makes it hard, but if a Magician owner wants to humor me and take the time to yank their front wheel off so we can compare the two then I am more than willing to take pictures, find part numbers, and take measurements. From everything I have seen of the speedo drive, it looks the same as the Hawk one, just flipped to the other side. I would love to get more detailed images of one just to clear up some of the mystery.
Most people won't take a gamble with $95 on something that may or may not work. I am willing to take the time to get measurements of bolt patterns, and do comparisons to the basic parts. Will the wiring be the same, maybe or maybe not. I know that all of the same basic circuits exist between the two. The factory Hawk cluster doesn't have a gear indicator like the Magician, but the Digital Tach cluster does, and it gets added on with a simple addition of adding pins to a pre-existing connector that were simply left blank.
Simply put, if we can confirm that the speedo drives are functionally the same, and that the gauge clusters have the same bolt pattern, then the Hawk tach cluster could be made to work on the Magician, and that would open up a door for a lot of people. You can even select different wheel diameters in the cluster, so adjusting to the smaller Magician front wheel is not a problem.