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SeerAtlas · 08-03-2016, 01:49 PM

OK, its not yet time for my side by side comparo on the hawk vs. zong....I purchased both.
zong not yet completely broken in BUT...
let me give you a sneak preview-

I am NOT in california,I am NOT a 80road/20dirt or commuter/city rider, and,,,I'm one of those guys who is always on the lookout for a 'deal'. AND,
I wish that I had NOT bought the TT250, period.

Now IF, you are a motard type guy, or If you live in cal and plan to street your bike there, and IF you are the kind of guy that would pay a hell of lot more for a LEXUS, than the comparable (essentially same car) Toyota, then by all means go get a TT250 and live happy.

The TT250 has some nicer gear(switches/mirrors/led turn signals /grips/etc.The motor makes more noise than the exhaust- sounds really busy for some reason. The suspension is a higher grade but as mine came from CSC is much more jarring with less usable travel, than the hawk's. The TT is a better road bike, but on rough,back woods rutted, pot-holed, messed up fire roads and in anything other than packed dirt, the Hawk is a more competent/more comfortable ride. The TT is more comfortable at sustained high revs, but loses in low end grunt. Given the gear similarities, its amazing how different the bikes feel when riding. I am going to try sorting out the more sophisticated suspension on the TT, as stock, its beating me up on anything other than smooth pavement while the simple hawk suspension is far less jarring in the rough. PS, I'm about 270 in riding gear.

edit:-One more consideration, if you want to reward what in my lifetime is clearly the BEST mc customer
service effort OF ANY BIKE, then buy a csc bike, any of them, or all of them

08-03-2016, 01:49 PM	#204
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	CSC TT250 vs..... OK, its not yet time for my side by side comparo on the hawk vs. zong....I purchased both. zong not yet completely broken in BUT... let me give you a sneak preview- I am NOT in california,I am NOT a 80road/20dirt or commuter/city rider, and,,,I'm one of those guys who is always on the lookout for a 'deal'. AND, I wish that I had NOT bought the TT250, period. Now IF, you are a motard type guy, or If you live in cal and plan to street your bike there, and IF you are the kind of guy that would pay a hell of lot more for a LEXUS, than the comparable (essentially same car) Toyota, then by all means go get a TT250 and live happy. The TT250 has some nicer gear(switches/mirrors/led turn signals /grips/etc.The motor makes more noise than the exhaust- sounds really busy for some reason. The suspension is a higher grade but as mine came from CSC is much more jarring with less usable travel, than the hawk's. The TT is a better road bike, but on rough,back woods rutted, pot-holed, messed up fire roads and in anything other than packed dirt, the Hawk is a more competent/more comfortable ride. The TT is more comfortable at sustained high revs, but loses in low end grunt. Given the gear similarities, its amazing how different the bikes feel when riding. I am going to try sorting out the more sophisticated suspension on the TT, as stock, its beating me up on anything other than smooth pavement while the simple hawk suspension is far less jarring in the rough. PS, I'm about 270 in riding gear. edit:-One more consideration, if you want to reward what in my lifetime is clearly the BEST mc customer service effort OF ANY BIKE, then buy a csc bike, any of them, or all of them __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking Last edited by SeerAtlas; 08-03-2016 at 02:22 PM.
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