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Thanks sport and seer, sounds like we are of the same opinion. I'll put the 50t back on for a while. It seems you have found 5th gear is weak on small steady inclines...just slows down. I'll wear this stuff out, 17/50.....and when the chain shreds I'll buy a whole set. 17/47 or 16/47. I'll keep you posted. I found that chart on bikebandit.com
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