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I love out conversation oviking.
For what it is worth, this forum is famous for thread drift. Since this was my thread in the first place, it does not hurt my feelings to watch it drift. Plus you were bringing back so many memories of when I lived in the bay area. I have the same lament for California that you do, but even so, I am moving back.
Even though I was born in New Jersey, I have always considered myself a native Californian. As much as I love and appreciate my time in the Pacific Northwest, I am still a Californian at heart, and intend to go back. I am thinking probably San Luis Obispo County.
So, I am a Californian living in exile, but I do love where I am now also. I will not be moving back for many years, likely not until after I retire. Hopefully, that will be after California finishes crumbling completely, and will be on the upswing :-)
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