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Irishjew 05-07-2019 08:07 PM

Apollo 250 out, New 2019 blue CSC TT250 ordered.
 
Sold my Apollo over the weekend and lasted exactly two days before going through withdrawals. I just couldn't get the Apollos rear suspension set up the way I wanted it without some frame modifications. The Apollo ran great and its new owner seemed happy with the purchase as he plans to put it on the back of his RV for tooling around.

I live in Nevadafornia and its not as easy to register all of the offroad branded hawks and magicians. The TBR 7 was just too new for me to gamble on and the BMS 250cc CRP that was available locally has disappeared from the Nevada turbopowersports website. I though long and hard about it and even went to look at a brand new 2018 CRF250l Rally that was on sale for 3895 plus fees. The problem with the crf250L rally was that the dealership had a bait and switch scam going with over $1500 in additional fees plus tax.

I actually called CSC and they actually answer their phones, they keep stock on actual replacement parts, and just seemed to be genuinely nice people. Hopefully the quality of this bike is good. I am super excited about its impending delivery. I am going to take lots of pictures and a video when it arrives.

dpl096 05-07-2019 08:32 PM

You will find that the crew Steve Seidner has assembled at CSC is top shelf. There is really no one else in the CB market like them. Quality product, reasonable pricing and real customer service sums them up nicely

Megadan 05-07-2019 09:45 PM

You will be quite happy with the TT250. CSC is a pretty great company to work with, and probably the best in the Chinese motorcycle world in N. America. They were super helpful to me when I was ordering parts and had a mix up and I don't even own a CSC motorcycle.

NzBrakelathes 05-07-2019 10:56 PM

I think the old story " you get what you pay for" applies.
Paying more should give you more and CSC demonstrates that.

Seems most all other cheaper bike seller people have issues etc but they paid less so logically they get less but maybe expect more then they actually paid for.

elkhunter338 05-07-2019 11:07 PM

Mine is running good @ 280 miles, CSC has been great to deal with, Would I purchase the tt250 again, YES. It's not the perfect bike but nothing is. You should be pleased with your purchase.

Megadan 05-08-2019 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes (Post 308394)
I think the old story " you get what you pay for" applies.
Paying more should give you more and CSC demonstrates that.

Seems most all other cheaper bike seller people have issues etc but they paid less so logically they get less but maybe expect more then they actually paid for.

That is exactly it, you pay more to get more. I bought a Hawk knowing the support would be non-existent, but also knowing I had the ability to take care of things myself.

NzBrakelathes 05-08-2019 01:58 AM

China doesn’t make a great bike for a low price
It does make a low price bike that could be great in ones own opinion

China isn’t the Slave to the USA and they’re making sure they sent
They intend to be your master / look hard at things and the culture and you’ll see what I mean.

Their down fall so far is their own lazy attitude and non willingness to change
If you could only know all the experience I’ve had! Simple shit kept very difficult

wedooit 05-08-2019 08:51 AM

Congrats on your purchase! I also look at csc. The service and support is important. I have written that the guys in the masters knowledge class on this site, could charge for their knowledge services and have extra income. If you have some time, do some write up on your purchase! Take care and stay safe!

Wild Dog 05-08-2019 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes (Post 308406)
China doesn’t make a great bike for a low price
It does make a low price bike that could be great in ones own opinion

China isn’t the Slave to the USA and they’re making sure they sent
They intend to be your master / look hard at things and the culture and you’ll see what I mean.

Their down fall so far is their own lazy attitude and non willingness to change
If you could only know all the experience I’ve had! Simple shit kept very difficult

Well they are great bike for the tag price. China can make great things for a very low price. Like Norinco Firearms, garden tools, etc.
But let's be honest you can make them so cheap, because the Chinese government is forcing low wage to their workers and forcing a hive mind just like the russians.

2LZ 05-08-2019 01:10 PM

I think for the money, the Chinese are providing a great value for the buck spent. What I find atrocious is how much the Japanese are charging for their bikes. Purely market driven. Much of the motorcycle world is inflated by "I gotta have the newest, latest, best" mentality. Lots of image involved. Obviously, we as China riders don't care about image much. ;-)

culcune 05-08-2019 01:34 PM

CSC is literally a store/on- line store vs. most budget mail-order stores. I would equate them to a reputable big brand dealership that happens to mail-order.

BitcoinDood 05-08-2019 02:06 PM

I love my TT250 and customer service with CSC is fantastic. They've always answered my questions, were super helpful, and I've never had a problem ordering parts. With 4500 miles on the bike since last spring, I've had no serious issues.

Wild Dog 05-08-2019 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 308446)
What I find atrocious is how much the Japanese are charging for their bikes. Purely market driven. Much of the motorcycle world is inflated by "I gotta have the newest, latest, best" mentality.

Here is a good example of what you say:
In Argentina with around 2500 dollars you can buy these motorcycles:

A)Yamaha XTZ 125, 9.8 HP assembledin Brazil with chinese and thailand parts. MSRP 2680
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aa...=w1184-h888-no

B)Honda XR190 L FI, It's use the cb190r engine, assembled in Argentina, again with chinese and thailand pars. About 18 HP MSRP 2650
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rZ...=w1184-h888-no

C)"Corven 250 TXR" Chinese on/off with a water cooled 250cc engine. I don't know if it's a yamaha clone or a Kawasaki clone, not honda for sure. About 20 HP. MSRP 2050

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jF...=w1000-h650-no


The japanese know that people will pay anything for something stamped with their brand.

NzBrakelathes 05-08-2019 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Dog (Post 308486)
Here is a good example of what you say:
In Argentina with around 2500 dollars you can buy these motorcycles:

A)Yamaha XTZ 125, 9.8 HP assembledin Brazil with chinese and thailand parts. MSRP 2680
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aa...=w1184-h888-no

B)Honda XR190 L FI, It's use the cb190r engine, assembled in Argentina, again with chinese and thailand pars. About 18 HP MSRP 2650
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rZ...=w1184-h888-no

C)"Corven 250 TXR" Chinese on/off with a water cooled 250cc engine. I don't know if it's a yamaha clone or a Kawasaki clone, not honda for sure. About 20 HP. MSRP 2050

I think the Chinese clone is an adapted water cooled engine from the Air cooled CB250 - I can't see the photos but that is a semi common engine here or it is a NC250 that is now very common

NzBrakelathes 05-08-2019 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Dog (Post 308442)
Well they are great bike for the tag price. China can make great things for a very low price. Like Norinco Firearms, garden tools, etc.
But let's be honest you can make them so cheap, because the Chinese government is forcing low wage to their workers and forcing a hive mind just like the russians.

It is so they can drain the west of the capital for them selfs - Hence Mr T has it right.


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