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xposur 05-30-2016 11:33 PM

No spark on hawk :(
 
In the middle of finishing up tuning the carb the bike died after running a few minutes on idle. Wouldnt start. It cranks and turns over, has compression, spark plug is wet with fuel. I initially thought it might have been the coil, checked the resistance, and its good, then I thought maybe its the spark plug wire..swapped out the coil and wire into another bike and it was getting spark. So the coil and plug is good, fuel is good. but no spark:hmm:

I really dont wanna cut into the wire harness and follow the 2 wires from coil and see if there is a connectivity issue or maybe the kill switch malfunctioned.

Any suggestions?

Weldangrind 05-31-2016 01:04 AM

CDI. Buy two.

Johnp 05-31-2016 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 219156)
CDI. Buy two.

Where do you get them? And is there a particular part we should look for?

dpl096 05-31-2016 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 219156)
CDI. Buy two.

ditto:tup:
http://www.rickypowersports.com/#!ca...ic-parts/m0l0f

xposur 05-31-2016 09:25 AM

Thanks! I'm going to swap out the cdi from my other bike and see if it starts

xposur 05-31-2016 09:57 AM

So I just swapped out a working CDI, still no spark. I tried removing the black and white pin out of the CDI for the kill switch in hopes of bypassing it but still no spark. The kill switch has 2 wires, one green one which I think grounds the ignition coil and the black and wire one that goes to the CDI

humanbeing 05-31-2016 10:24 AM

What's the reading(s) of pickup | source ? http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...t=16179&page=2 #25 tells how...

xposur 05-31-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by humanbeing (Post 219188)
What's the reading(s) of pickup | source ? http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...t=16179&page=2 #25 tells how...

Ok, I just tested the resistance of the wire going from the stator. Using my good bike as reference, the good bike resistance the 369. The no spark bike was 132

xposur 05-31-2016 08:14 PM

Is it safe to assume it's my stator?
Kill switched jumped out by putting a ground wire from negative battery terminal to coil. ✔
Ingnition coil confirmed working✔
spark plug confirmed working✔
cdi confirmed working✔

humanbeing 05-31-2016 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xposur (Post 219258)
Is it safe to assume it's my stator? ...

http://www.sanxin.com.cn/exhibit/upl...8522499844.jpghttp://www.sanxin.com.cn/exhibit/upl...8521841627.jpg
Narrow it to
[Energy] Source aka exciter... Bl/R >~50V | 300-600Ω Bypass it w/ "DC-CDI" is a streetwise fix
[When] Pickup aka trigger... Bu/W >0.5V | 120-180Ω btw.This thingy is RARE to fail physically... the Gap btw flywheel | swap 2 wire's position may solve... U can't really sure what's inside in these days...

'16 TT250 05-31-2016 10:17 PM

I've replaced a few Honda stators, they're known to be a weak link. Not sure about other models and how durable they are. Your resistance reading being that far off makes it look like the likely suspect. The common failure with stators is that the insulating coating gets eaten up by the oil and/or heat damaged and wires start shorting out within the coil(s) lowering resistance so your finding is on par with the common stator damage.

humanbeing 06-01-2016 05:46 AM

Oh no....
According to http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16065 , hawk = DC-CDI which similar to http://translate.google.com/translat...asp%3Fpid%3D20
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How to check = There's 1?V in & 190V±20V out

xposur 06-01-2016 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanbeing (Post 219283)
Oh no....
According to http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=16065 , hawk = DC-CDI which similar to http://translate.google.com/translat...asp%3Fpid%3D20
===
How to check = There's 1?V in & 190V±20V out

I checked my cdi by swaping it into another bike. It works, the only thing that had me believe wasn't working was the stator because of the low resistance

Republic 09-22-2016 07:24 AM

Is there a more up to date link to a CDI that will work? That rickypowersports link is broken for me.

Would this work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Pins-CDI-U...ZXOuFk&vxp=mtr

Ariel Red Hunter 09-22-2016 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Republic (Post 231826)
Is there a more up to date link to a CDI that will work? That rickypowersports link is broken for me.

Would this work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Pins-CDI-U...ZXOuFk&vxp=mtr

Republic, isn't this a new bike? If so, this part should be replaced under warranty.


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