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SpudRider 01-22-2016 11:15 PM

2nd Generation, CSC Center Stand: Installation
 
Today I received my new center stand from CSC. :tup: I am busy tomorrow, but i hope to install the center stand sometime next week. CSC has posted an installation tutorial for the new center stand at the following link. ;)

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=19660

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...1_3373-650.jpg

Lee R 01-22-2016 11:21 PM

I saw this in person at CSC today. I'll be ordering one soon. Those aluminum skid plates looked excellent as well.

Please update with how the install goes Spud.

SpudRider 01-22-2016 11:32 PM

I certainly will post an update, Lee. :)

Other than pounding the mounts apart slightly with a drift, and/or removing a little metal with my angle grinder, I think the installation should be pretty straightforward. :) I do plan to use my Tusk Spring Puller, instead of a screwdriver, to facilitate the installation of the spring. ;)

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p...+spring+puller

https://images.rockymountainatvmc.co...xh_spr_too.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...1_3396-650.jpg

rjmorel 01-23-2016 03:10 AM

Great Spudness. I'm on the fence till I see how yours works out. Pics please of the installed stand folded up and down so we can see how it intermingles with the side stand. And how easy the peg leg makes it to get up on the center stand? Also does the peg leg stay clear of your foot when riding?
I got bored this week and made an adapter for my original type center stand that added a peg leg to it. Made it very easy to get up onto the center stand 1 or 2 times till it got twitterpated being aluminum and became worthless. First time I tried it though, it about threw my RX3 over my shoulder, so I had that going for me.
Sigh,
rj

SpudRider 01-23-2016 04:56 AM

I won't get the center stand installed until the middle of next week, at the earliest. However, I have opened the package, and examined the center stand. It is very well manufactured. :tup:

CSaddict 01-23-2016 09:10 AM

I'll make sure I request this version when they call to configure my 2016 before shipping.

Sport Rider 01-23-2016 10:47 AM

Definitely want to see how it looks on the bike!

keithmaine 01-23-2016 01:05 PM

my stand is scheduled for monday delivery

woodlandsprite 01-23-2016 01:15 PM

Also looking forward to further photos and reviews.
I still can't get my bike onto the center stand on my own (old style stand).

SpudRider 01-23-2016 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodlandsprite (Post 203290)
Also looking forward to further photos and reviews.
I still can't get my bike onto the center stand on my own (old style stand).

The foot lever extension will definitely add a lot of leverage to help lift the bike. The lever is about 6 inches long, and is very securely welded to the frame of the center stand. :)

RedHawk47 01-23-2016 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithmaine (Post 203288)
my stand is scheduled for monday delivery

Mine too!

Inroads 01-23-2016 04:13 PM

I wonder if CSC is offering an adjusted price for those who bought the original
But now want the updated one ?:hmm:

woodlandsprite 01-23-2016 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inroads (Post 203303)
I wonder if CSC is offering an adjusted price for those who bought the original
But now want the updated one ?:hmm:

I emailed asking that question and they said they'd work something out. Once I see some more photos/reviews I'll write them again. I really don't like not being able to put the bike on the center stand myself.

keithmaine 01-23-2016 06:18 PM

CSC again with customer satisfaction attitude. :tup:

SpudRider 01-23-2016 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodlandsprite (Post 203305)
I emailed asking that question and they said they'd work something out. Once I see some more photos/reviews I'll write them again. I really don't like not being able to put the bike on the center stand myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithmaine (Post 203306)
CSC again with customer satisfaction attitude. :tup:

We are very fortunate a reputable company such as CSC decided to import the Zongshen motorcycles to North America. :)

superdude 01-23-2016 08:24 PM

Just thought I'd add another CSC reputable customer service story #248...my friend ordered centerstand for his bike back in October...was delayed obviously like everyones and they ended up shipping it to the same address he was at in October but he had moved and bought a house since then..he went to the old house which was still vacant and found the box from them clearly had been sitting out for a week and it had been opened up and center stand stolen. Gotta love downtown seattle and why on earth someone would even want to take that with them I have no idea...nevertheless he called CSC and they sent him out another one for free. They definitely should of alerted him that it shipped or confirmed his address, but they made it right by sending another one out. Good luck installing yours Spud cant wait to hear your thoughts on it.

SpudRider 01-23-2016 09:00 PM

Thanks for reporting another example of excellent customer service, Dude. :)

I was going to install my center stand today, but it started to snow. ;) If the weather forecast is good, I will probably install my center stand on Thursday.

FLorangeRX3 01-23-2016 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdude (Post 203309)
my friend ordered centerstand for his bike back in October...was delayed obviously like everyones and they ended up shipping it to the same address he was at in October but he had moved and bought a house since then..he went to the old house which was still vacant and found the box from them clearly had been sitting out for a week and it had been opened up and center stand stolen. Gotta love downtown seattle and why on earth someone would even want to take that with them I have no idea...

Probably sold it for scrap for $3.
I was wondering why mine was taking so long but I never questioned it since I haven't registered it yet. Going on Monday.
Will

Weldangrind 01-23-2016 11:26 PM

That is excellent service!

RedHawk47 01-24-2016 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inroads (Post 203303)
I wonder if CSC is offering an adjusted price for those who bought the original
But now want the updated one ?:hmm:

I have an experimental centerstand I want to build and the old design stand would be useful. In fact, I could use several.
So, if anyone has an old one and is buying a new one, I'd like to work something out with them.
PM me if interested.

rjmorel 01-24-2016 06:49 PM

Just a thought for you guys when installing your center stand.
If you have trouble getting it into the frame bracket as if the new stand is a bit too wide, check for burrs banged up on the frame mounting bracket from hitting rocks. The center stand mounting bracket is the lowest portion of the frame and will get dinged up if you hit any rocks. Gently Feel the inside portion where the stand goes into and if you feel a sharp burr, hit it with a file. Be careful when feeling it as they can be sharp as a razor blade.

Readhawk47,
I'll keep you in mind for my old center stand but haven't ordered a new one yet as I want to see how they work out on others bikes. I'm wondering if those of us that put a lowering link on would need a shorter center stand to compensate like other bike brands do?
rj

woodlandsprite 01-24-2016 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedHawk47 (Post 203322)
I have an experimental centerstand I want to build and the old design stand would be useful. In fact, I could use several.
So, if anyone has an old one and is buying a new one, I'd like to work something out with them.
PM me if interested.

Redhawk, I will definitely keep you in mind should I replace mine with a new one.

SpudRider 01-25-2016 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjmorel (Post 203346)
Just a thought for you guys when installing your center stand.
If you have trouble getting it into the frame bracket as if the new stand is a bit too wide, check for burrs banged up on the frame mounting bracket from hitting rocks. The center stand mounting bracket is the lowest portion of the frame and will get dinged up if you hit any rocks. Gently Feel the inside portion where the stand goes into and if you feel a sharp burr, hit it with a file. Be careful when feeling it as they can be sharp as a razor blade...

rj

Thanks for posting the good tip, Rob. :)

Inroads 01-26-2016 07:30 AM

Looks like there is no difference between the original Centerstand and the updated one save for the deployment arm.
Which has me thinking I'll call CSC to see if I could just purchase the arm and weld it on myself.
Also I'm surprised that there is not a gusset where the arm meets the stand.
I would definitely add a gusset there because of the load of standing on it with all my weight.

SpudRider 01-26-2016 01:23 PM

You're right. I am definitely going to weld a gusset where the deployment arm meets the frame of the center stand. :)

SpudRider 01-29-2016 12:12 AM

Today I installed my 2nd generation, CSC center stand. I like this center stand a lot. :tup:

The quality of manufacture is very good. It is easy to lift the bike onto the center stand. The center stand is stable when deployed. Ground clearance is not compromised when the center stand is raised. The center stand lofts the rear wheel. :tup:

I did need to trim the center stand to enable it to deploy properly. I used my 4-1/2" angle grinder to remove a little material from the top of the center stand. I will paint this area of the stand the next time I remove the center stand. At that time, I will also weld a gusset between the deployment arm and the left leg of the center stand. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psvhyno1mo.jpg

As promised, here are several photographs of the bike with the center stand in the retracted position.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psra6kpths.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psnoxktcfr.jpg

Here are several photographs from the left side of the bike showing the center stand in the deployed position.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psjxxhvzcp.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psfa1ewnio.jpg

Here are several photographs from the right side of the bike showing the center stand in the deployed position.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...pse4noojhc.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psflm9cnl4.jpg

SpudRider 01-29-2016 12:29 AM

The 2nd generation, CSC center stand fits easily inside the frame mounts. I did not need to trim the mounts. :)

I used my Tusk Spring Puller, instead of a screwdriver, to facilitate the installation of the spring.

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p...+spring+puller

https://images.rockymountainatvmc.co...xh_spr_too.jpg

I hooked the free end of the spring on the Tusk spring puller. Using the Tusk tool as a lever, and the spring mount on the center stand as a fulcrum, I stretched the spring. Holding the spring in the stretched position with one hand, I inserted about 9 pennies between the coils of the spring with the other hand.

With the pennies holding the spring in a stretched position, I released the lever. I then used the Tusk tool to pull the spring onto the spring mount of the center stand. After the spring was installed, I removed the pennies. ;)

SpudRider 01-29-2016 12:35 AM

I deploy the center stand using the following method.

Standing of the left side of the bike, I grab the lower engine guard with my left hand, and the passenger grip rail with my right hand. I balance the bike in a vertical position. I use my right foot to press the center stand to the ground. Then I lean to the right, extending both legs as I pull with my left hand, and push with my right hand.

SpudRider 01-29-2016 12:41 AM

The first time I deployed the center stand, it would not rock forward into the locked position. Therefore, I lowered the bike on the side stand. Examining the top of the center stand, I noticed two marks where the frame of the bike had contacted high points on the top of the center stand. I trimmed the high points with my angle grinder, and once again attempted to deploy the center stand. I repeated this process several times, until I had trimmed the top of the center stand enough for the stand to deploy properly.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psvhyno1mo.jpg

SpudRider 01-29-2016 12:46 AM

When it is convenient, I will remove the center stand and weld a gusset between the deployment arm and the left leg of the center stand. At that time I will also paint the gusset and the trimmed area of the center stand. After the paint dries, I will re-install the center stand, and the job will be complete. ;)

SpudRider 01-29-2016 12:56 AM

The CSC tutorial for the center stand installation is located at the following link. ;)

http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/Articles.asp?ID=288

SpudRider 01-29-2016 01:00 AM

I have added this thread to the RX3 Tech Sticky, under the Modifications subheading. :)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14228

rjmorel 01-29-2016 01:18 AM

Great pics and write up on your install Spud. Only comment I have is in painting your grinded area. It may be a wash as that area gets blasted by the front wheel with rocks and stuff. Mine looked pretty unpainted in that area from all the gravel roads I rode this summer. rj

SpudRider 01-29-2016 01:21 AM

Thanks for the tip and the kind words, Rob. :)

Inroads 01-29-2016 08:44 AM

My original Centerstand lofts the front wheel even when my side and top boxes are empty.
Nice to hear that the new one lifts the rear wheel.I'm curious how that is :hmm:
Re-design or because no boxes on Spud's bike ?

Weldangrind 01-29-2016 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 203561)
When it is convenient, I will remove the center stand and weld a gusset between the deployment arm and the left leg of the center stand.

You have my full attention. Did you buy an Eastwood?

woodlandsprite 01-29-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inroads (Post 203577)
My original Centerstand lofts the front wheel even when my side and top boxes are empty.
Nice to hear that the new one lifts the rear wheel.I'm curious how that is :hmm:
Re-design or because no boxes on Spud's bike ?

I suspect it might be due to no boxes on spuds bike.

I had one of the side boxes off of my bike when I did the valve work - and if I remember right, it was much happier to loft the rear wheel then.

What I'm curious about is the contact with the frame requiring that the top of the stand be ground down - especially if the design is such that the existing stands were unchanged and an arm was simply added. i do not recall having such an issue with my center stand.

SpudRider 01-29-2016 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inroads (Post 203577)
My original Centerstand lofts the front wheel even when my side and top boxes are empty.
Nice to hear that the new one lifts the rear wheel.I'm curious how that is :hmm:
Re-design or because no boxes on Spud's bike ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodlandsprite (Post 203588)
I suspect it might be due to no boxes on spuds bike.

I had one of the side boxes off of my bike when I did the valve work - and if I remember right, it was much happier to loft the rear wheel then...

I have all the standard equipment, including both panniers, installed on my bike. However, I did remove the stock trunk, and installed a Garage Pro Travel Trunk. The travel trunk was removed when I installed my center stand. The 2nd generation, center stand solidly lofts the rear wheel with the panniers installed. :tup: After talking with Ryan, I believe the new center stand might have been modified to loft the rear wheel. ;)

I will install my empty, Garage Pro Travel Trunk this afternoon, and see if the center stand still lofts the rear wheel. ;)

SpudRider 01-29-2016 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 203580)
You have my full attention. Did you buy an Eastwood?

I did not buy the welder, yet. However, I am definitely going to buy the Eastwood welder you recommended. :)

SpudRider 01-29-2016 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodlandsprite (Post 203588)
...What I'm curious about is the contact with the frame requiring that the top of the stand be ground down - especially if the design is such that the existing stands were unchanged and an arm was simply added. i do not recall having such an issue with my center stand.

We must remember, the RX3 was not originally designed to accommodate a center stand. The center stand mounts were originally intended only to aid assembly at the factory. CSC told Zongshen to keep the mounts, and reinforce them, so we could install a permanent center stand. :) Therefore, the frame clearance with the center stand might be a little tighter on some RX3 bikes than others. In any event, if necessary, it only requires a little trimming with an angle grinder to fix the problem. This 2nd generation, center stand is very nice, and I would not be concerned about doing a little grinding to make it fit. One will do less grinding to install this center stand than he would to install the CSC skid plate. ;)


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