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aaron7 03-06-2008 11:45 AM

Lifan 110cc Honda Cub motor... any good?
 
Ok. I joined these forums to ask this one question (at least just one for now!)...

I have a 64 Honda Cub C100. I found a Lifan 110cc motor on ebay that says it drops right in. I've tried to do my research but not many have this motor. All I can find is one guy on Youtube doing a wheelie with it lol

I know this forum is obviously pro-Chinese motors... but I do need to know the pros and cons of the Honda-replacement Lifan motors. I've had many pocketbikes and scooters in the past and I've never had good luck with them... the carbs are hard (if not impossible) to tune, the metal breaks, the screws strip easily...

Any input?

frostbite 03-06-2008 11:50 AM

I wouldn't say we're so much pro-Chinese as anti-anti-Chinese. :D

There are at least 2 forum members who used Lifan engines in Honda frames. One was an ATC 200X and the other a XR200/250?. The XR was even raced. I believe both owners were happy with the swap. A search through the forum should yield the relevant discussion threads.

culcune 03-06-2008 12:30 PM

Re: Lifan 110cc Honda Cub motor... any good?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aaron7
Ok. I joined these forums to ask this one question (at least just one for now!)...

I found a Lifan 110cc motor on ebay that says it drops right in.

I know this forum is obviously pro-Chinese motors...?

I agree, most of us aren't full-on "pro-Chinese" motors' people, but rather risk-takers in that we invested little money to experiment to see if these bikes are worth it.

If the 110cc is cheap enough, it couldn't hurt to try it out.

katoranger 03-06-2008 12:50 PM

I haven't experience any problems motor wise. All the problems stem from the less developed bike that surrounds a pretty decent motor.

I wouldn't hesitate to install a lifan motor.

Allen

aaron7 03-06-2008 01:05 PM

Well this is the motor.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LIFAN...WDVWQQtcZphoto

Thoughts?

katoranger 03-06-2008 01:40 PM

You need to go all out and get this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/160CC...em190203181426

Don't know if it really makes a difference, but this one actually says "lifan" on the sides of the engine.

Here might be a great buy.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/110-L...em120228956614

There are so many parts available for these engines that are of good quality that it shouldn't be of much concern for you.

Go look in the pit bike section as that will have alot more info on these.

Allen

aaron7 03-06-2008 01:49 PM

Those are definately cool but neither is a bolt on to the C100 cub. I'm looking for one that just bolts in and I can gooooooooo!

katoranger 03-06-2008 03:11 PM

I thought they were all basically the same, is there a difference in the motor mount setups for the cubs?

It may not have you specific model listed, but they probably do fit also.

I am sure that some minor wiring etc will need to be done. A 1964 honda is going to be a 6 volt system and the new motor will be 12 volt. Also the new motor will be a CDI ignition and the old a points ignition.

I googled trying to find a pic of a 64 cub and found this forum that might be of more help for you. http://planetminitrails.com/webboard/

Please keep us informed here too. I am looking at repowered hondas too.

Allen

aaron7 03-06-2008 03:31 PM

Thanks for the forum link but this isn't a minitrail and shares none of the same parts with them.

This is the C100 Cub:

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/pre...820/577342.JPG

katoranger 03-06-2008 04:05 PM

I think that those motors will bolt in, but you will need to use some of the stock parts from the cub motor. That side cover by the shifter will need to be used that lines up with the chain cover, the airbox parts and some of the wiring. You could use the stock points, but I would convert it over for 12 volt and run the CDI.

That minitrail forum will have help with the electrical as that is the same idea. 6 volt to 12 volt conversions.

I think it will involve switching the bulbs and the regulator/rectifier to 12volt components and that is probably about the extent of it.

I have been toying with getting a CT90 trail which is real similar to your cub. These engine are basic bolt ins for those too.

Allen

katoranger 03-06-2008 04:30 PM

Here is another link that may be of more help.

http://www.miniriders.com.au/forum/t...ike-ct110.html

Allen

ejcycles 03-07-2008 01:02 AM

Hi aaron7
Your bike has a Honda 49cc Push-Rod engine in it. None of these newer engines are in & go. Yes they fit the frame mounts Ok,...
But... Your bike has a 6 volt electrical system on it. You will need to change the entire wiring harness and lengthen the one you receive. Change the charging system parts {regulator & battery}, all of the light bulbs to 12 volt. You will need a CDI box & ignition coil for the the new engine. You will need to figure out a way to connect the original air box to the carburetor. All of these newer engines run a 12 volt electrical system for everything. It can be done if you have the experience.

katoranger 03-09-2008 12:35 PM

I have located a donor CT90 for $50. This may be the beginning of a good commuter project. I am leaning toward one of the 140cc engines that comes complete with wiring and carb.

Now I just need to sneak it home without my wife finding out.

Allen

ejcycles 03-09-2008 06:17 PM

katoranger
I hope she doesn't read the forums! 8O

katoranger 03-10-2008 11:10 AM

Nope, She is totally in the dark about this one. The seller may even meet me at work with it and I can bring it home and sneak it into the shed. I will buy parts one at a time and then wheel it out when its done. She nevers goes in my shed and wouldn't be able to tell it from any of the other junk bikes in there.

Bruce, is the 2speed Hi/lo a separate gear box or part of the internal transmission?

I am not planning to use this bike offroad, but I am just curious.

It is going to be optimized for street use and mpg with enough power to hold 50 on the hills. I think the 160cc pitbike motor is called for now.

Allen


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