Hawk 250 DLX
 

Perhaps this is a sneak peak of what the new EFI Hawk will be. Check out KMT CFR250.

I already have a Hawk 250. I have heard about the DLX model but also that it will carry a hefty price tag of $3k!!! That is more than double the price of the original hawk 250

http://m.china-motorbike.com/sdm/128...ine_avail.html

Is this what you were talking about??

That website has a ton of bikes! I hope someone imports that kmt200...that thing looks like a tw200 with the big fat rear wheel.

For $3000, that thing better come with more than just EFI. I can add EFI to my Hawk for $200-300 right now.

For $3000, it better have the following.
1. Better forks - I.E. Fast Ace or equivalent USD forks.
2. Better rear shock - preload and rebound adjustment at a minimum.
3. Better rear swing arm - Not the stamped steel nonsense that can crush from tightening the rear axle nut.
4. Better hubs, spokes, and rims - Self explanatory.
5. Better plastic quality.
6 Better fasteners, bearings, and other misc hardware.

It better be an amazing machine for that price point, because $3,000 is GOOD used Japanese enduro territory.

Also, not to be picky, but for a bit more than 3 grand I can get an LXR250F - a bike that has some serious hardware AND a liquid cooled engine with 20 more cc's, 10+ more hp and 1 more gear in the trans. So it better at least come somewhat close to matching that bike for anybody to shell out that kind of cash for.

That is a water cooled EFI Hawk.

At $690 per unit cost, minimum order ten, I have to wonder where the sum of $3000 is conjured up from? As things stand, all Chinese bikes depend on being, "very affordable", which is a polite euphemism for cheap; Otherwise people would flee in droves to used or new Jap bikes. Someone in southern New Hampshire is trying to off load 2017 Hawks for $1900 a pop, and apparently has several, at least. I do wonder how he got them and what his margins are if FI bikes are $690?

The only problem is I don't see is that it's not EPA certified for off or on road.

I saw that someone was selling them for that in southern NH. Also there was a guy in central VT selling them for 1900 and had a few taotao quads as well.

My guess is these guys are not importers and are buying the hawks for 1399 and just trying to make a few bucks on Craiglist. If they buy 5 and make 400/500 profit on 4 bikes they get the 5th one free.

No thank you....I'll keep my 3 grand....

"I saw that someone was selling them for that in southern NH. Also there was a guy in central VT selling them for 1900 and had a few taotao quads as well.

My guess is these guys are not importers and are buying the hawks for 1399 and just trying to make a few bucks on Craiglist. If they buy 5 and make 400/500 profit on 4 bikes they get the 5th one free."

Possibly so, but my point is, if fuel injected bikes are $690, (probably "Free on Board" in China somewhere) what must the 250RPS Hawk be, given the speculated $1600 price hike? FI does not cost that much. It is all speculation and for myself FI will not provide what I want ie 32HP, six speed trans with a tall 6th gear. I won't be holding my breath.

Which goes back to my comment. For that price increase, even if it didn't have the kind of power you want, it better have a bunch of other hardware to back up that insane price hike. If it is just a Hawk with a water cooled, EFI, version of the CG motor making 18hp. I will spend my money elsewhere.

Now, if it can hold a candle to the higher end bikes offered by Pitster Pro and SSR - aka Fast Ace suspension with actual travel, alloy rims and hubs, etc. Maybe.

I could be wrong but that does not include shipping or EPA testing let alone NTSHA testing either. And forget CARB testing. I believe the importer is responsible for that otherwise I'd order a shipping container (96 units) of them.... Not kidding.

It occurred to me that it might be wise to buy a container of bikes, even if just for parts. If the bikes can be imported for off-road use only, perhaps CARB doesn't come into play (it doesn't in Canada). The frames would be useless, but there would be a giant cache of motors, wheels, brakes, suspension, etc. I'm pretty sure the group here would be in need of such things eventually.

That's what I meant by FOB (Free On Board) in China. The importer carries the rest of the cost. I did this for a living in another life.