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JerryHawk250 05-10-2017 08:24 PM

Oil cooler install
 
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My oil cooler finally came in today. It took me about an hour to install. After I installed the cooler I added oil with the provided syringe. I cranked it up to prime the oil lines and checked the oil level and added a little more oil. I took a ride down the road and came back and check the oil again. A check valve is not needed if you connect the line out from the engine to the bottom of the cooler. I let it set for an hour and the oil didn't drain back to the engine. I'll have to shorten the line with the filter when I get a chance.

Addition info: I used a piece of 1" angle iron using the two motor mount bolts at the bottom . After I mounted I realized I could flip the cooler mounting bracket and will set the cooler further back and the oil lines will be behind the angle iron. I'll take care of that and post pictures when I get to it.

JeremyC 05-10-2017 08:36 PM

Looks good! Is that one from mj? I'll get one eventually.
On a side note, if you tweak that wire retainer for your front brake line, you can get it to go inside of both of those ridges on that rubber insulator. It takes some judicious bending and squeezing with pliers. My OCD made me do it!

JerryHawk250 05-10-2017 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyC (Post 255366)
Looks good! Is that one from mj? I'll get one eventually.
On a side note, if you tweak that wire retainer for your front brake line, you can get it to go inside of both of those ridges on that rubber insulator. It takes some judicious bending and squeezing with pliers. My OCD made me do it!

Thanks . No I got it on taobao.com $54 and some change delivered. I originally ordered with a stack plate cooler but was out of stock. https://world.taobao.com/item/254075...?fromSite=main

dpl096 05-10-2017 09:17 PM

I agree...looks great. Well done indeed:tup:

mjstef 05-10-2017 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 255369)
Thanks . No I got it on taobao.com $54 and some change delivered. I originally ordered with a stack plate cooler but was out of stock. https://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/det...id=25407512835



Yup, To the point it's cheaper 1 at a time with shipping than in bulk as China post small items are pretty cheap to ship. I got 6 of the valve cover coolers in with the stacked plate coolers and shipping alone was $129 usd. My wholesale price with shipping in bulk is more than you paid. Still waiting on seeing if they can come up with an UNCRIMPED end on one hose but haven't heard back.

On your routing, Not sure it make a lot of difference on a bike but on cars, Trucks, Heavy equipment and hydraulic systems the hot (out) line always goes to the top as heat rises and if it went into the bottom the cooler/radiator efficiency is compromised. Just food for thought..........

Merlin 05-11-2017 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mjstef (Post 255384)

On your routing, Not sure it make a lot of difference on a bike but on cars, Trucks, Heavy equipment and hydraulic systems the hot (out) line always goes to the top as heat rises and if it went into the bottom the cooler/radiator efficiency is compromised. Just food for thought..........

That's the way I have it.

JerryHawk250 05-11-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mjstef (Post 255384)
On your routing, Not sure it make a lot of difference on a bike but on cars, Trucks, Heavy equipment and hydraulic systems the hot (out) line always goes to the top as heat rises and if it went into the bottom the cooler/radiator efficiency is compromised. Just food for thought..........

That's the way it should be, but without the check valve the oil will drain back into the block. I haven't checked it today, but when I get home this afternoon I'll see if it drained back or not. If it did then I'll get a check valve. Another reason for feeding it from the bottom is so it doesn't get air bound. Feeding from the bottom will force the air out the top. If feed from the top and air is trapped at the top and the cooler will never completely fill with oil. Mounted horizontally with the connections on top is the ideal way it should be mounded. I had it mounded that way and put a 1" plastic spacer on the fender to lower it. The fender cleared the cooler but I didn't like the idea of the fender blocking the air flow across the cooler. The crimped end look nice but one end on each line should be left uncrimped so you can custom fit the lines. I was planning on buying a cooler from you but I wanted to get one before this weekend coming. We had planned on going on a off road trip over the weekend but looks like that may change due to rain. >:

JerryHawk250 05-11-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 255400)
That's the way I have it.

Post some pictures of your install. If I remember right you had installed a check valve on yours. It will work that way just have to make sure that the cooler is filled completely with oil so that air will not get trapped in the cooler. But I know you knew that already. :) It was nice that they supplied a syringe with the kit to do that.

JerryHawk250 05-11-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mjstef (Post 255384)
Yup, To the point it's cheaper 1 at a time with shipping than in bulk as China post small items are pretty cheap to ship. I got 6 of the valve cover coolers in with the stacked plate coolers and shipping alone was $129 usd. My wholesale price with shipping in bulk is more than you paid. Still waiting on seeing if they can come up with an UNCRIMPED end on one hose but haven't heard back. .

Matt,
Just send the units out with a check valve that way when installing the check valve the length could be adjusted then.:tup:

Megadan 05-11-2017 03:07 PM

I like the mounting plate solution, very clean and it looks almost factory.

One of these is definitely in my plans. I honestly would love to be able to buy the kit without the lines. Just the cooler, filter, check valve, and block for the filter screen port. I have about 20ft of 3/8ths 316L Stainless hard line coil and a mountain of -6 AN fittings I bought for another project I would love to plumb this up with.

JerryHawk250 05-11-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Megadan (Post 255453)
I like the mounting plate solution, very clean and it looks almost factory.

One of these is definitely in my plans. I honestly would love to be able to buy the kit without the lines. Just the cooler, filter, check valve, and block for the filter screen port. I have about 20ft of 3/8ths 316L Stainless hard line coil and a mountain of -6 AN fittings I bought for another project I would love to plumb this up with.

Thanks. Just buy the kit and toss the hoses. everything else is in the kit minus the check valve.

mjstef 05-11-2017 09:37 PM

The last few samples i got the cooler Banjo fitting is bigger than the adapter fitting for the motor.....

Megadan 05-12-2017 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mjstef (Post 255520)
The last few samples i got the cooler Banjo fitting is bigger than the adapter fitting for the motor.....

Maybe my just woke up brain is confused. Trying to say you have a kit or two without lines? If so... How YOU doin! :hi:

Merlin 05-12-2017 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 255419)
Post some pictures of your install. If I remember right you had installed a check valve on yours. It will work that way just have to make sure that the cooler is filled completely with oil so that air will not get trapped in the cooler. But I know you knew that already. :) It was nice that they supplied a syringe with the kit to do that.

Will do in a day or two. Repainting the new side covers. Time to install my new blinker / running lights as well.

JerryHawk250 05-12-2017 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 255587)
Will do in a day or two. Repainting the new side covers. Time to install my new blinker / running lights as well.

Great. I don't think I ever seen a pictures of your bike. BTW I check the oil level last night and the oil didn't drain back to the block so I guess a check valve is not needed. I'm going to flip the mounting bracket this afternoon when I get home. that push the cooler back about 2".


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