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Okierider 03-28-2024 11:03 AM

Zs172fmm 4 valve head
 
https://m.made-in-china.com/product/...091462475.html

Found this in a Facebook group advertised with a 75mm big bore kit (around 271cc, but called a 300).
I’ve asked the guy selling them on Facebook if the 4v head adds to the height or width of the motor but got no useable answer. The 75mm kit with 4v head is advertised for $450, the 75mm kit for $100 shipped.

Anyone know anything about these?

Edit: looks like the whole kit here-75mm and 4v head. Some are claiming it was all installed and dynod at 28 crank horsepower but I haven’t seen any proof of it.

https://m.made-in-china.com/product/...112478765.html

Thumper 03-28-2024 02:11 PM

The hardware on the cam gear inside there looks like a centrifugal advance for variable valve timing. I can't think of any other reason for a weighted elbow with the weight off-center to use centrifugal force to advance the valve timing as you increase rpm. Pretty cool.

edit: WRONG! see the next post below.......

I like the kit. But I already have a brand new 2 valve head that I am going to work on porting, and an OTOM overbore cylinder/piston kit. I won't be the one to test this new 4 valve head, but I can't wait to see it installed on your bike!

superjocko 03-28-2024 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 406180)
The hardware on the cam gear inside there looks like a centrifugal advance for variable valve timing. I can't think of any other reason for a weighted elbow with the weight off-center to use centrifugal force to advance the valve timing as you increase rpm. Pretty cool.

I like the kit. But I already have a brand new 2 valve head that I am going to work on porting, and an OTOM overbore cylinder/piston kit. I won't be the one to test this new 4 valve head, but I can't wait to see it installed on your bike!

It's a compression release that makes the bike easier to start.

Thumper 03-28-2024 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superjocko (Post 406185)
It's a compression release that makes the bike easier to start.

So the weighted arm releases the device when it starts. Well that makes sense, but where did you read/find that out?

Before I ordered my Templar, I assumed that the teeny choke lever was a compression release lever. :lmao:

But it doesn't need one to let the starter crank it up. I should try using the kickstart. I have to do that EVERY time on the KTM 250 2stroke. Fortunately, it pops right to life :)

Okierider 03-28-2024 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 406192)
So the weighted arm releases the device when it starts. Well that makes sense, but where did you read/find that out?

Before I ordered my Templar, I assumed that the teeny choke lever was a compression release lever. :lmao:

But it doesn't need one to let the starter crank it up. I should try using the kickstart. I have to do that EVERY time on the KTM 250 2stroke. Fortunately, it pops right to life :)

I only ever kickstart mine. It’s faster than the starter lol

superjocko 03-28-2024 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 406192)
So the weighted arm releases the device when it starts. Well that makes sense, but where did you read/find that out?

It's a common feature on many small engines.

Okierider 03-28-2024 10:26 PM

What sort of carb would be appropriate for a 4v head 271cc motor?
The stock 172 comes with a 28, would a 30mm be enough to feed it?


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