ChinaRiders Forums

ChinaRiders Forums (http://www.chinariders.net/index.php)
-   Street (http://www.chinariders.net/forumdisplay.php?f=104)
-   -   taotao hellcat idle (http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=24275)

tophattitus 08-06-2019 11:25 AM

taotao hellcat idle
 
So i purchased a taotao hellcat and i replaced the carb with another pz25 that wasn't tamper proof because of a float issue. Ive tried adjusting both screws on the carburetor and had slight idle change. idle is stuck somewhere between 5500 and 6000rpm's. i also checked the throttle slide and it wasn't installed upside down. at this point I'm really not sure what is causing the issue other then maybe its jetted different. But any advice would be great.:thanks:

bogieboy 08-06-2019 11:28 AM

sounds stupid but, is the slide facing the correct way? I.E. the rounded notch facing the inlet of the carb and not the engine. if thats switched around, it will make a big difference. you should only have a very small gap at the bottom of the slide, anything big will throw the idle off...

tophattitus 08-06-2019 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogieboy (Post 315602)
sounds stupid but, is the slide facing the correct way? I.E. the rounded notch facing the inlet of the carb and not the engine. if thats switched around, it will make a big difference. you should only have a very small gap at the bottom of the slide, anything big will throw the idle off...

Yes its fitted the correct way.

scoot newb 08-06-2019 03:03 PM

9 Times out of 10 it is the throttle cable.

tophattitus 08-06-2019 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoot newb (Post 315636)
9 Times out of 10 it is the throttle cable.

It's not that. The throttle slide is at tje bottom.

bogieboy 08-06-2019 03:49 PM

if the slide is all the way down in the carb body, you have a vacuum leak somewhere in the intake. is the gasket on the back side of the carb in place? any open nipples for emmissions stuff on the intake? intake to head gasket in place?

tophattitus 08-06-2019 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogieboy (Post 315640)
if the slide is all the way down in the carb body, you have a vacuum leak somewhere in the intake. is the gasket on the back side of the carb in place? any open nipples for emmissions stuff on the intake? intake to head gasket in place?

there is a nipple on the side of the carburetor. tried covering it but it didn't change anything. the original wasn't hooked up to anything. as far as a vacuum leak im gonna take some time searching, weather permitting.

Stretch-N-Poke 08-06-2019 07:18 PM

While you are tinkering, take some pics for us. Front, back, left, and right. That way we can look at them and see if anything looks out of place.

benhonda 08-07-2019 06:27 PM

it has to be the slide not closed like it should be. if it were just a vacuum leak the rpms could be high but not that high. The carb is allowing alot of fuel and air in.
Either the throttle linkage is messed up, or the slide isnt going all the way down.
With the filter or airbox off, look into the carb throat to see the slide...the gap at the bottom should be pretty small.

tophattitus 08-08-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benhonda (Post 315724)
it has to be the slide not closed like it should be. if it were just a vacuum leak the rpms could be high but not that high. The carb is allowing alot of fuel and air in.
Either the throttle linkage is messed up, or the slide isnt going all the way down.
With the filter or airbox off, look into the carb throat to see the slide...the gap at the bottom should be pretty small.

As I've stated before, the slide is at the bottom. It has a very tiny opening. I'm past looking for the easiest explanation as I've checked for all of that. The only thing i could think of prior to this is that it has way to big of a jet. And as bogieboy pointed out a vacuum leak is something i haven't checked for yet.

Whisky 08-08-2019 02:24 PM

To big of a jet isn't going to make it idle high. my vote is a vacuum leak. Nipply on side of carb is an overflow for a stuck float, needs to stay unplugged.

Hellkitty 08-08-2019 07:34 PM

did you check the choke to make sure it opens all the way when the choke is off? I don't remember if those carbs have a butterfly choke or a choke circuit, I replaced my carb with a vm20 before I ever rode it. I know you said you checked all the obvious, but i just thought i would throw it out there anyway.

tophattitus 08-09-2019 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whisky (Post 315775)
To big of a jet isn't going to make it idle high. my vote is a vacuum leak. Nipply on side of carb is an overflow for a stuck float, needs to stay unplugged.

Yea i have a feeling you guys are right about the vacuum leak



Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellkitty (Post 315782)
did you check the choke to make sure it opens all the way when the choke is off? I don't remember if those carbs have a butterfly choke or a choke circuit, I replaced my carb with a vm20 before I ever rode it. I know you said you checked all the obvious, but i just thought i would throw it out there anyway.

Choke has full range of motion. And yea its a butterfly choke.

tophattitus 08-09-2019 01:12 PM

You guys hit the nail on the head. It's a vacuum leak between the carb and the intake manifold. I even tried removing the heat shield between them but there's just the slightest gap that's letting air in at the top.

tophattitus 08-15-2019 10:30 PM

So i decided to buy a mikuni vm22 that came with a intake manifold, bolted it on. changed the jet to a 115 and she is running. Al tho i suspect she might be running a little rich. But im just happy to know that she runs again.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:56 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.