That's definitely a Honda-based single. I can tell you more about it if you can show me the left side of the motor.

That carb will work with your stock setup, but if you start modifying (performance exhaust, etc.), you'll want a Mikuni so you can actually find replacement jets. Expect to pay less than $40 delivered for a Mikuni.

Wow nice bike how much did you pay for it? i agree with weld definitely get a mikuni and with that look for some airbox and exhaust mods i'm pretty sure it'll wake up that bike. the spyder is nice! i would love one with a 2zz and a 6speed =)

I'll be sure to post more pics soon :tup:

Is there something in particular from what you've seen that makes you think it's a Honda clone? Or is that simply something the Chinese bikes are known for?

The bike sounds good and runs really well as is, but I'm sure I'll want more power as I get more comfortable with riding. I'll definitely look into a Mikuni when the time comes, especially if they're really that cheap!

Thanks for all the help :thanks:

Thanks Jim! It's a good looking bike and I got a really good deal on it. I'll be looking for upgrades in the near future, knowing myself as I do.

The Spyder is a lot more fun than I expected. I've had it for almost five years now and I still really enjoy it. I've also owned a few other Toyotas, including an AW11, AE86, and a Supra.

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I really miss that thing sometimes.

I can tell from the right side engine cover. The location of the sight glass and the clutch linkage gives it away.

Got it! I'll definitely post more pics and see if you can narrow it down even further for me.

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Honda clones are about 80 percent of the China bike market. Yamaha and Suzuki clones are not as common.

Good to know, thank you sir! Is there one or two Honda engines which are most often cloned? Any particular reason as to why?

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Not sure why, but usually the CG125 is the basis. Was never offered by Honda in the US.

Another very common Honda to be cloned is the CB250 single. Also never offered here by Honda.

The Yamaha 200 frame of architecture has also been cloned, with remarkable quality. It is the same design as the SR185, TW200, AG200, XT225 and TT-R230.


I think the Suzuki clone is based on a DR200, but poked 'n' stroked out to 200. An excellent motor.

The CG125 that Kato referenced has appeared as a 150, 175, 200, 223 and 230. Reliable like a tractor. Sounds like one too.

I think the Suzuki clone engines sold by Qingqi are based on the DR125. My Zongshen clone of a Yamaha engine, the ZS167FML engine, now has accumulated almost 68,000 miles of hard riding. :tup:

Didn't know about the CB250 single. I'm going to have to try to dig up some info on this engine, take my panels off, and compare.

Thanks again!

Wow, 68,000 miles! How long have you had that thing, and how often do you ride it?!

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Made a few small changes to the NST250 today. Still waiting for better weather to make a few more.

More pics, including engine pics, hopefully soon.

I bought my Zong in the summer of 2008, so I will have owned it for seven years this summer. :) I ride it very often. ;)