Going back to a china bike. Vader 125cc?
 

Hey there! I've been riding bikes for about 7 years now. The last time I owned a china bike was about 4 years ago and since then I've been on Japanese. I'm thinking of buying a fun bike and am heavily considering a vader. Opinions on them? It will be my around town bike. Basically no faster than 35mph, about a hour at most riding on the weekend.

https://youtu.be/G9oXi4I_C7Y

That guy is member here and you can check his channel on YouTube.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=17197

I've actually watched his video and it was the first time I even heard of a grom knockoff. Honestly it's what got me interested in the Vader.

Welcome to here! The Vader seems like a good bike as long as you are not intimidated by wrenching on it. They seem to be hit or miss out of the box if you look around at recent posts, but overall, once you get the bike consistent, it works out--for the price.

Without getting into Grom territory pricewise, but several hundred more $ than the Vader (I am thinking less initial work to get it started/keeping it running) is the SSR Razkull; however, that seems like more of a commitment over a few hour a week bike unless you have the extra few hundred dollars for piece of mind.

In the same category pricewise as the Razkull is the very similar bike from Ice Bear.

Here is one for reference http://www.apscusa.com/New-Little-Mo...ded_p_767.html

Then again, here is the Vader at its low price (shipping not included, but still...) http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/20474

With Maxipad's videos/help here, you might be just as well off with the lower cost Vader. I have not read any post where one has failed catastrophically. I doubt you will be the first!

I actually like the looks of the first one you sent a link to. I like the monster look of it haha. A few hundred dollars isn't that much and if it's really that much better out of the box I would consider it.

But holy crap I just checked the link to the vader you sent and that's about 200 dollars cheaper than the one I was looking at. I can't pass that up. Vader it is!

For a 'toy' might as well pay as little as possible. Besides Maxipad, on youtube there is a guy from Texas with a Vader who uses his to commute to work. He doesn't seem to have problems with his. I don't recall his name, but you might be able to find his videos. Of course, you will have to start a thread (actually, continue with this one) once you buy it and receive it and all the whatnot.

At these prices we might be seeing the new scooter craze . Probably not, average consumer can't even change their own oil.

Once I get it in I will continue with this thread. Im excited to get it in!