My Hawk 250 tried to kill me and almost succeeded.
 

Jun 9th 2023 around 8AM -

The front brake line came loose and caught a knob on the tire, stopping the front tire instantly, forcing me to turn hard left and endoing over the bike, slamming my left temple, side, and knee into the ground.

Had full gear besides pants -
6 fractured ribs, 2 broken teeth, road rash to left knee and right hand.

Police report photos -
https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2274

https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2272

https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2271

Initial point of impact;
https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2276

The trophy; WARNING! Small amount of blood.
https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2277

Down for repairs - Ignored the chaos, I've been hurt for a month so there has been no cleaning or organizing lol
https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2268


New shoes -
https://www.chinariders.net/album.ph...pictureid=2269
I had aftermarket blinkers and mirrors, so just put the stock back on the left side, replaced shifter, clutch lever, super glued the plastics back together and she's running and riding, did a short ride around the property Friday, Handlerbars are bent...windshield is trash.


Upcoming check replacing handle bars, grips, clutch levers, and hand guards with all new ones. Any suggestions welcomed.

Guess there's an image limit per post?
https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2269

Here's her now.

Thank God you're ok. Man...ouch. Any reason for the brake line to come loose and, more importantly, prevent it? Maybe zip tie them to the holster thingies?

That's a big ouchie!!! Glad you are mending.

Wow!
Glad you are on the right side of the dirt.

Wait a second...I see RC trucks on bench behind bike. Which trucks you got?

This is the second one of these I have seen this week.

Someone on a different forum had a usb cable do the same thing. Stopped the front wheel completely.

He even had similar injuries. I think the same ones.

I think it was just all the bumps over time.

I actually noticed it rubbing when I first got it and I just pulled it up outta the way, bent the holders a little further out and ziptied it to them, it fixed it, somewhere over the course of 800 miles it must have come loose again.
Now I just have a zip tie on the handle bars holding the line up and out of the way, I plan on finding a better solution before riding, but it works lol.

Also, just getting tires without knobs can prevent it lol, like my replacements.

The 4runner body is an Axial Base camp, I have the TRX4-M Land rover, FMS FJ Cruiser, EZRC FJ and Land cruiser (last 3 are just shelf queens - lookers, not performers lol)

Arrma Senton 3s BLX (Has been turned into a Monster Senton)
Arrma Kraton 6s
And just got the Arrma Granite Boost edition during the July sale, had an extra ESC laying around, tossed it in there and got it running 3s.

Do you have any? or looking to get some?

Oh wow that's crazy, I thought this was a once in a lifetime freak accident thing.

He riding on knobbies, too? or get it stuck in a rim?

Sure is, just now getting to the point I can bend normally again lol. Thanks!

Me too.
Oddly enough I think the credit goes to watching too much Moto Madness.
I dunno how anyone rides without gear.
No way to be sure, but I think an $80 helmet saved my life.

Oh I just realized this maybe should have been posted in Videos and pics?
Idk, kinda both, really.

I have 2 ECX Ruckus, sold as 2WD monster truck. 1 was converted to 2WD truck, added a bunch of hop-ups and a 69 Charger lid done up in General Lee colors. Took 3rd with it at Eaton's Intermountain RC Raceway in Salt Lake City running in Sportsman Truck.


1 bone stock ECX Ruckus, 1 Associated ProSC10 and 1 Associated T6.4


Just missed a big race weekend at Sweetwater RC in Rock Springs because I bought the Hawk.


https://www.chinariders.net/attachme...1&d=1689563077

I struggled to get back on my Harley when some woman ran a red and almost ended my life. Like, didn't think I could. My hat is off to you for getting right back in the saddle. Your Hawk looks good with them tires. Those are the ones I want for my Hawk.

No, his usb cable went down into the wheel and wrapped all around the hub. It was a KTM.

Here. I’ll show you his thread. Nearly identical crash. I’m starting to think we should all be very very careful about this type of thing, be it brake lines or just a USB cable that we stuck on the bike

https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/f...njury.1658261/

And what I really notice is his helmet picture and your helmet picture are the same.

On trip with a friend, me on my Goldwing and him on his new Harley, his rear caliper bolts fell out and the caliper jammed the rear wheel. Long skid mark and damaged parts but no crash. The Harley only had 600 miles on the odometer.

Sorry to hear about that.. I had a similar although to a much lesser degree accident with my former Xpro Titan DLX when the rear axle nut loosened up and the rear wheel came off and flipped me off.. luckily only just a skinned knee.. I now have cotter pins drilled thru both axles of the current bikes

I WISH it was the rear! lol Lucky!
My hawk only has like 700-800 on it's Odo

Oh, that's sweet! One of the several reasons I decided to get my hawk and start riding is finding sweet places to run my crawlers. Even a 1/10 fits right in my backpack (well, it did before EMSA cut my bag up).

How do you like the ECX? I've thought about getting one cause you can find them so cheap, but worried about reliability and parts availability. I run my bashers with my dogs and when they catch one well....even the arrmas get broke from time to time. Usually go through a body or two a year, few pinion gears, a motor....something. Lol.

I need to fix my area up, bad. I have little hangers for my cars as well, they're usually all hung up with the bike gear by my workbench but as you can tell from the pic I just kinda...gave up for a while. All that stuff sitting there needed something fixed, besides the .22 lol
Base camp, senton, kraton and TRX4m all broke something back to back.

Understandable when it's someone elses fault. My only worry was not knowing what caused the wreck. At first I thought I just had a flat, I was conscious but don't remember the wreck. Last thing I remember is feeling pulled to the left and my vision going black and all I could hear is the bike scraping across the road, next thing I remember is waking up in the ambulance.

So for a while there I wanted to get back on but was scared to, once I put the new tires on and rolled it outside I could hear the cable rubbing, checked it and sure enough it's got some rubbing damage and you can see the exact spot it hung up at.

After that, feeling confident I know how to avoid it happening again, I can't WAIT to get back out! This is my first bike and has less than 1,000 miles on it, can't quit now, I've barely even GOT STARTED!

I'm just cruising around the house for now, I live on an agricultural farm so a lot of room to cruise, but once I'm 100% healed, get a new front end (handlebars are bent, so replacing pretty much everything up front) and some new gear I'll be back out scooting the back roads.

Thanks, they sure look sick! I Thought they would be sketchier on the gravel but they've actually been fine so far, although I am taking it pretty easy lol.

Ah, crap...now you've got me paranoid.
That might have to be my next mod LOL
Did you have any locktite on the nut? Maybe if I just put blue for now...

Glad you're okay, that's terrifying, I can only imagine the way the tire must have flew with the chain still on it but no bolt, then you have the chain itself flinging around back there, crazy you just got a skinned knee!

I probably lock tited initially and then broke the bond when adjusting the chain at some point. Yea it was an interesting day.. my son saw the whole thing go down as he was behind me on the Brozz.. his biggest amazement was that I was able to get the wheel back on and ride it home afterwards..

Man, I`m just happy you Guys are ok.. Bikes can be fixed.
Appreciate the headsup on what went wrong..

Worse that happened to me was on my GSXR1100, I was coming back from a rally on the Sunday and the oil plug came out. Luckily my brother-in-law was behind me, signalled me to stop.. I was doing about 100mph and by some miracle only used the front brake... As I stopped and put the side stand out, I saw the oil light coming on. My brother-in-law was covered in oil.... Needles to say I was shaking and p$%sed.. Turns out the mechanic`s assistant never torc tightened the nut, only hand tightened it...

I'm right there with you on the Hawk, but for me it's to find flying sites for my RC airplanes.


The ECX lineup is what Traxxas was 20 years ago. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Traxxas sold the old molds to Horizon Hobby and it's just re-branded...kinda like these China bikes! lol They are plastic and there are failure points, most notably the shoulder bolt in the front steering c-block. It likes to pull out. Easily solved with aluminum upgraded c-block and a little blue loctite. The other failure point is the plastic slider drive shafts, they like to twist. I upgraded to the Traxxas big beefy plastic drive shafts, been on ever since. Then the usual RPM upgrades...steering system, a-arms, etc. New steering servo. The shocks will do ok, but the Traxxas big bores are the way to go. I bought the brushless version, which I'm not even sure if they sell it anymore. Still running the same ESC and motor that it came with...going on like 5 years or so. But, I don't run them a lot...usually just racing, no bashing. I've beat on the bone stock one with a kicker ramp. So far it's held up. All it needed was a new 17t motor. It's brushed and the 15t it comes with is just too weak to run it.


I should post a pic of my workshop...makes yours look clean.

I love the title of this thread!

I might have to pick one up, then. I've only ever owned the TRX4m from Traxxas and I'm selling it lol, not a fan of Traxxas or the way they do business.

Haha at least you have a shop! i just have a workbench in my living room.

Haha I thought it was a bit over dramatic but kinda true at the same time. I live an hour from the nearest hospital. Who knows if I'd still be here if I wasn't wearing a helmet.

So I've been doing some riding and it's still rubbing despite like 4-5 zip ties hold it out of the way.

https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2284
This is how my bike came, can anyone confirm there should be a rubber piece here holding this cable in place?

https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2281
This rubber piece had completely came out and slid down the cable. I had to smash it down and together with pliers and zip tie it closed and it still pops out sometimes....

https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2283
This is the speedo side, the rubber is way too loose and doesn't stay in place without the zip tie....

I also can't find replacement cable holders (the metal part) or the rubber boot that goes in them. Anyone have a source?

https://www.chinariders.net/picture....pictureid=2282

After comparing my bike to pictures of others online, this did NOT look right.

I bent the holder that is missing the rubber piece to the point it holds the cable in roughly the same place the rubber piece would, smashed the lower holder even more and put a zip tie on the top and bottom of it to prevent the rubber gasket thingy from moving around, took the light, lever and some other stuff apart and re-ran the brake cable BEHIND all the other wires (it was in the very front) and it seems to now be flexing outward instead of inward towards the tire. after finishing I was testing the noticed that the speedo cable was now flexing inward towards the tire....after some similar adjustments got it to flex outward as well but I'm not confident that one will hold.

Honestly not confident either will hold....

But I'm tired and the pain is starting to show it's ugly head, so I'm done for the night.

Ugggghh, looking at pictures on here and someone posted one with a brand new hawk;
https://www.chinariders.net/picture....&pictureid=742

The brake line is run outside and down the side.

Mine came tucked in with all the wires behind the headlight. (inbetween the forks)
Can anyone confirm it's supposed to be ran like the picture here? (Outside of forks)

Mine came routed behind the headlight. I'm thinking this guy re-routed?

Inbetween the forks?

And did yours come with rubber holders for both the upper and lower guides on the front brake? or just the lower one?

I re routed mine like the picture, for sure flexs in a better spot now (up by the ignition instead of down by the tire)
Sadly I think I need a new brake cable, though. This one seems to have "memory" the same way wire does and wants to flex the same way it did in the wreck.

I don't think it's in between the forks, but I'd have to pull the headlight off to check. Got to thinking...why not pinch the bracket thingie that it routes through with a pair of pliers to keep the line locked in? Just the lower as far as the rubber holder. Can you see the line move when you turn the handlebars?

You can just follow the line with your hands and tell where it goes, or look up from underneath it.

That's what I did. It's crazy how much I had to alter them, they were incredibly loose. Ontop of re routing it like the pic seems to be working, haven't test rode yet, just jumping up n down on it while turning the wheel back n forth watching the cables flex. Seems to be good now.

Better front forks would definitely help, the stock ones sometimes compress some just under the weight of the bike LOL so bad.

When I started thinking of riding, I started watching moto madness videos... and quickly talked myself out of it. Then I found Dan Dan The Fireman, Motojitsu, and everything changed. Just completely immersed myself (and still do) in what NOT to do, and learning from others mistakes. I've learned how to read myself better and not ride if I'm emotional, practice emergency braking every time at the very least 3-5x when I first get on, and have taken a multitude of safety courses.


About 15yrs ago I got on a 500cc Honda CRF cuz I had "first MSF course" confidence, and promptly found myself in a ditch (it was an intentional slow lay-down to avoid something far worse), and that completely knocked off my desire for the next decade to ride. Then a good friend bought a TW200. Then I found the TT250.

When I was in my twenties, I got on a friend's Yamaha YZF1000R. I had very little riding experience and no MSF courses at all. He had recently wrecked it and had a lot of the plastics off. Asked me if I wanted to ride it and I was like HELL YES!


I very slowly rolled it up and down some residential streets. I was in 2nd gear and wondered what would happen when I cranked the throttle. Shifted my weight towards the front and tucked my knees into the tank and gave it a rip. I was instantly looking at the sky and slowly backing off that throttle. Got the front wheel down without incident, rode straight back to my friend, got off that thing and swore I'd never get on another.

Did you have to change your underwear?

Thankfully, no. But I couldn't stop my knees from knocking for at least an hour. Almost collapsed on the dismount. lol