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JerryHawk250 05-12-2017 06:57 PM

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I flipped the bracket and rerouted the hoses. It really tucks it up nice and tight under the plastic. Hoses look better too. And fixed the brake line retainer for JeremC :hehe:

goat67 05-12-2017 09:27 PM

Looks real good. I think I will order one also.

JeremyC 05-13-2017 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 255634)
I flipped the bracket and rerouted the hoses. It really tucks it up nice and tight under the plastic. Hoses look better too. And fixed the brake line retainer for JeremC :hehe:

LOL! That retainer looks great now! :lmao: I do really like the oil cooler setup.

mjstef 05-13-2017 10:19 AM

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Just an FYI, Flat stock will move it toward the engine another inch. Where you able to grind the crimp off and cut the hose? Can't tell....

mjstef 05-13-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Megadan (Post 255580)
Maybe my just woke up brain is confused. Trying to say you have a kit or two without lines? If so... How YOU doin! :hi:

I have 4 valve cover style kits here with black valve covers and black stacked plate coolers with guard. (stock photo shows aluminum) My wholesale cost is $55.50. Throw $10 for shipping on them for a total of $65.50 and i will ship them Monday. No 10-15 day wait lol. E-mail me @ hwakclusters@gmail.com I really don't think i'll be able to offer a competitive kit as all forms of BULK shipping are absurd out of Chonqing. Cheaper 1 at a time with China Post. Have a great weekend folks!

JerryHawk250 05-13-2017 12:08 PM

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Just an FYI, Flat stock will move it toward the engine another inch. Where you able to grind the crimp off and cut the hose? Can't tell....

I didn't have to cut the line. I was able to route the lines to take up the extra slack. Using the 1" angle it gave me more clearance for the oil lines and I was able to mount the cooler higher up under the tank plastic. The 1" angle was stiff enough that I didn't have to use a top mount bolt. I knew that 1" crating angle the Hawk came in would come in handy for something.

timcosby 05-15-2017 12:23 AM

check all connections on it every now and then. i had a small leak i was going to address this evening but about half way back home turned into a big blowing leak:shrug:. one of the banjo bolts on the valve cover had loosened up from the vibration. made a hell of a mess.

Megadan 05-15-2017 01:02 AM

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check all connections on it every now and then. i had a small leak i was going to address this evening but about half way back home turned into a big blowing leak:shrug:. one of the banjo bolts on the valve cover had loosened up from the vibration. made a hell of a mess.

Oil resistant loctite 243 is your friend. Clean the threads with brake cleaner and use a bit of that. Give it time to cure before filling with oil and running it and you shouldn't have an issue.

JerryHawk250 05-15-2017 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by timcosby (Post 255847)
check all connections on it every now and then. i had a small leak i was going to address this evening but about half way back home turned into a big blowing leak:shrug:. one of the banjo bolts on the valve cover had loosened up from the vibration. made a hell of a mess.

Thanks for the heads up. I took about a 60 mile trip on Saturday and check it all over when I got back. Nothing loose and I put another 98 miles yesterday. all still snugged up with no leaks. I always have a habit of checking the bike over before trips and after.

timcosby 05-15-2017 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=Megadan;255850]Oil resistant loctite 243 is your friend. Clean the threads with brake cleaner and use a bit of that. Give it time to cure before filling with oil and running it and you shouldn't have an issue.[ i was thinking because of the heat it wouldnt help much.

Megadan 05-15-2017 02:23 PM

It's rated up to 360 degrees F operating conditions, and while engines get hot, if your oil and engine case are ever that hot, you have other issues to consider.

Weldangrind 05-16-2017 12:27 PM

I've only researched the valve cover style that Matt offers, not the drain screen cap style. China Riders, please share opinions about which style you'd prefer and why. I would think that just for ease of oil changes, the valve cover style would be a benefit. Also, with the cooler mounted vertically, would everybody route oil out of the engine into the top of the cooler (like a conventional radiator) and then out of the bottom and into the engine? What about if it is mounted horizontally?


Jerry, your installation looks terrific! Very tidy.

Megadan 05-16-2017 01:12 PM

I would prefer the oil screen cap style, but only because it cools the entire flow of oil to the motor down. That said, the valve cover style may only cool the oil going to the head, but that oil is going directly to the head and valves. On an aircooled engine, that's the right place for it to go.

Personally, I think the screen cap system should have a slightly larger heat exchanger given that it is handling the entire system capacity. Wider and taller, and I would mount it horizontally if I could. Since it is horizontal and the front fender may cause airflow issues, the larger cooler could also allow for a small fan and a thermostatic switch, if necessary (hot climate). Have I ever mentioned that I tend to like overkill?

As far as flow direction, i would prefer horizontal. In a vertical application, I would feed top and flow out the bottom.

JerryHawk250 05-16-2017 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 256010)
I've only researched the valve cover style that Matt offers, not the drain screen cap style. China Riders, please share opinions about which style you'd prefer and why. I would think that just for ease of oil changes, the valve cover style would be a benefit. Also, with the cooler mounted vertically, would everybody route oil out of the engine into the top of the cooler (like a conventional radiator) and then out of the bottom and into the engine? What about if it is mounted horizontally?


Jerry, your installation looks terrific! Very tidy.

Thanks, I went with the drain screen cap because I liked the idea because I know all the oil is being pumped through the cooler. I wasn't too sure on how much of the oil is passing through the valve cover style. Matt offers both styles and his kits do have the stack plate coolers but he was still waiting on shipment of the new kit. I wanted to have mine install before I took it on my trip this past weekend so impatient me I ordered the one I have. I think Matt has a better cooler and will order a stack plate cooler later on. As far as oil change I drain from the plug on the bottom anyway. The screen inline is easy to remove and clean. I have mine feeding from the bottom and out the top so I have no problems purging the air out the system after an oil change and no need for a check valve as the oil doesn't drain back into the block. Being it's so small I don't think it will make a difference. I tried mounting it horizontally but the fender block most of the air flow to the cooler. I had put a 1" plastic spacer between the fender which dropped the fender and had enough clearance. Personally either cooler is better than no cooler. Over the weekend I put close to 160 miles on it in mid 90's heat. Cooler defiantly working as you can feel the heat dissipating off the cooler. I thought about mounting a couple of small e-fans for when off road trail riding when you know your going to slow to cool it off. I put e-fans on my turbo intercooler for drag racing to cool it down while lining up for the next race.

JerryHawk250 05-16-2017 01:37 PM

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Have I ever mentioned that I tend to like overkill?

So I'm not the only one? :hehe: Better have it and not need than to need it and not have it.


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