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Darkrider 05-04-2016 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by humanbeing (Post 214999)
Formal way
Some 12V staor coil works if the hole distance/ height are similar... Rewind the stock also not that difficult...
Quick solution [old stator coil may not handle extra heat]
[1]Reg/rec https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39272228687 for AC headlight (half-wave/ center-tap) system http://mastercircuits.blogspot.com/2...onversion.html
[2]Once had reliable DC, we can fit lights...
Wide voltage DC6-80v https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=45801004864 is a good thingy...
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Horn still works under 12v system but changing isn't that difficult either


Ok if i am understanding all the above correctly, i would take a R/R like what was in the first link, Do some soldering to the bikes stator or donor stator like in the second link to essentially convert my headlight to being DC powered instead of AC powered? The way the Honda is wired now is that the Headlight and Brake light are AC powered while the tail light and signals are DC powered off of the battery. I know some aftermarket headlight assemblies use replaceable bulbs of the H3 and H4 type that i can simply replace with a 6 volt H3 or H4 bulb. However by converting to 12V i can also look at the idea of running a low wattage LED aux light.

BlackBike 05-04-2016 11:52 PM

Darkrider... I hope you get on with restoration sooner rather than later. I love seeing these classics reborn! With an endorsement like that from weldandgrind, you know you found something special ;)

Darkrider 05-05-2016 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 215010)
Darkrider... I hope you get on with restoration sooner rather than later. I love seeing these classics reborn! With an endorsement like that from weldandgrind, you know you found something special ;)

Once my wallet recovers from the wedding in July, It will be full steam ahead on getting the XL on the road. It and my DT250. The DT needs a carb job and a new battery. Going to try an emergency light SLA battery on the DT and if it works out most likely use one on the XL as well to keep it 6 volt. I lean more towards the idea of keeping it as it was at least on the headlight side for now. I may end up seeing what is easier to find parts wise for the signal lights. I have seen some guys fit aftermarket lights from dual sport kits and just change the bulbs for 6 volt versions.

BlackBike 05-05-2016 12:41 AM

Was that 1976 Yamaha DT250C dual sportbike called a duel sport back then. Does anyone know when the term duel sport was first marketed?

Darkrider 05-05-2016 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 215025)
Was that 1976 Yamaha DT250C dual sportbike called a duel sport back then. Does anyone know when the term duel sport was first marketed?

The Yamaha was marketed as an Enduro. Not sure when the DS term popped up though.

humanbeing 05-05-2016 10:43 AM

Wiring diagram http://pan.baidu.com/s/1dFdkQ5r

zingshoen 05-05-2016 04:10 PM

nice XL. i converted my 1979 model to 12 volt in four easy steps: put 12 volt globes in all the lights, got H4 headlight and hook it up, replaced the flasher with a 12 volt flasher and added a 12 volt battery. that was it. no need to upgrade the stator or the rectifier. not kidding!

Darkrider 05-05-2016 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zingshoen (Post 215124)
nice XL. i converted my 1979 model to 12 volt in four easy steps: put 12 volt globes in all the lights, got H4 headlight and hook it up, replaced the flasher with a 12 volt flasher and added a 12 volt battery. that was it. no need to upgrade the stator or the rectifier. not kidding!

I had heard it was that simple on these bikes. Nice to know that it is confirmed! I believe i read somewhere that the XL and XRs Stator put out plenty enough juice to run 12 V as is. What i may do to get a bit more umph out of the headlight is wire the AC lead to be the switched lead on a relay then that way the H4 pulls power straight from the battery when it is on. I am assuming you simply went from the 35 W 6 volt H4 to a 35 watt 12 volt H4?

zingshoen 05-05-2016 06:08 PM

i m running LED tail and indicators now, but had the normal setup converted to 12 V before - and a large round H4 metal headlight with a 55/60 narva plus filament. the original headlight is 7 inch i think, i got an 8 inch (i think) from the wrecker's. nice to keep it looking historical. as far as my bike goes, this worked well, did 10 000 km with that setup before going LED with the new zong motor.

Darkrider 05-05-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zingshoen (Post 215146)
i m running LED tail and indicators now, but had the normal setup converted to 12 V before - and a large round H4 metal headlight with a 55/60 narva plus filament. the original headlight is 7 inch i think, i got an 8 inch (i think) from the wrecker's. nice to keep it looking historical. as far as my bike goes, this worked well, did 10 000 km with that setup before going LED with the new zong motor.

Nice! Wonder if the original electronics would support LED lights for less power draw?

humanbeing 05-05-2016 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkrider (Post 215158)
...Wonder if the original electronics would support LED lights for less power draw?

Test w/ "Dummy load" b4 order the LED...

zingshoen 05-07-2016 08:25 AM

the wiring will be okay, but 6 Volt LED? is that going to work with resistors and the original flasher? or will the 6V system drive the 12 Volt LED flasher?
in any event, don t bother with 6 volt, upgrading to 12 is easy and you need next to no skills, only globes, flasher and battery! 6 volt lights will be kinda dim in the daytime.

Darkrider 05-08-2016 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zingshoen (Post 215330)
the wiring will be okay, but 6 Volt LED? is that going to work with resistors and the original flasher? or will the 6V system drive the 12 Volt LED flasher?
in any event, don t bother with 6 volt, upgrading to 12 is easy and you need next to no skills, only globes, flasher and battery! 6 volt lights will be kinda dim in the daytime.

Nice, Like i said i may end up trying to wire in a relay to take the headlight load from the wiring. even if its just for safety sake. Use the original headlight wiring to trigger the relay.

Darkrider 05-11-2016 12:31 AM

Got the bike home tonight, Initial look over of it tells me i will need to get some parts for the rear brakes as well as the rear wheel adjusters. I am thinking i may look at getting a newer style H4 headlight with number plate to go with the newer super moto style fender that came with it.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...size_distr.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...size_distr.jpg

BlackBike 05-11-2016 12:48 AM

Check out that giant humongous tail light :hehe: you could certainly see that from behind back in the day


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